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« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2002, 05:46:00 PM »
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I bet you give a lot of speeches to your pets.


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My God! This was beautifull.

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« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2002, 06:16:20 PM »
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I bet you give a lot of speeches to your pets.
ROFL!  :D - would have been even better if I HAD any pets. ;)

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« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2002, 07:21:52 PM »
Beetle, I suspect most of us are tired of your assnine idotic rambling posts trying to come up with new ways to compare the UK and the USA.

Most of the time, you feel some need to start up another stupid bellybutton thread telling us how screwed up the USA is.

Get a life.

We really couldnt give a good whoopee what you think.

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« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2002, 07:32:24 PM »
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Beetle, I suspect most of us are tired of your assnine idotic rambling posts trying to come up with new ways to compare the UK and the USA.
Erm - didn't mention the UK, except at the end to compare the alcohol related road deaths. That was one of the points of writing it - seems like the alcohol problem is worse there, contrary to a number of Americans (Lazs & Toad to name two) who have made the opposite assertion. Just setting the record straight. I don't think "most of us" as you put it read my posts, never mind reply to them. I got what - 25 replies? Out of a AH subscribership of many thousands. Hmmmm.. ;) And if you REALLY didn't give a damn what I wrote, you wouldn't read it, never mind reply. Perhaps a little consistency is called for? ROFL. :D

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« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2002, 08:37:48 PM »
Geez Dago how do you really feel??????? :eek:

If he stopped with the assnine idotic rambling posts then my life would be empty.  :)

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« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2002, 08:41:25 PM »
actually I doubt the problem is worse here.  one things those statistics don't take into account in miles driven per year.

in this part of the US it is not uncommon for a guy to put 30-40k miles on his vehicle in a year.  between me and the wife we probably put about 35-45k on the 3 vehicles.

looking at the size of your country I'd have a hard time believing that the average person puts mor than 5k on a car in a year.

makes the odds of getting away with drinking and driving alot easier if you don't put so many miles on in a year.

going by population is not very effective means of comparison.  go by driving population and miles driven if you want a fairer comparison

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« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2002, 09:56:59 PM »
ROFL Funked!  You know I'd never leave you. ;)

Captain – I can tell you’ve thought about this, but I strongly disagree with the conclusions you have drawn. Incidentally, average car mileage here is (according to the dealers who do the servicing) 10-12,000 miles pa. I think it’s about the same in the eastern US, and I remember wondering why it wasn’t higher. The British Isles occupy an area the size of Oregon, which is America’s 11th largest state as you know.

In a situation where you’re doing 30-45,000 miles a year, it follows that you’re doing some very long trips. And I know from my own experience that those epic voyages get started early and might finish late, with a break for lunch in uncharted territory. On such trips, there simply isn’t time for drinking. Besides which, folks who depend on their vehicles to the extent that you do would be far less likely to risk their licences by driving while intoxicated.

I also feel that by attempting to portray the scale of the problem alongside the total number of miles driven is misleading. For those stats to be borne out assumes that everyone drinks and drives, and the US figures are higher because US drivers in an inebriated state present more arrest opportunities than if they drove many fewer miles. I don’t think that’s how it is.

The people that get done for drink driving are not on long trips across country. It’s the people who wanted to get to the pub early enough to have a few rounds, and took the car. They took the risk because they were NOT going a long distance, and thought they could get away with it. The pubs here close at 11pm each night, 10:30pm on Sundays. I have heard the Police comment that the hour after closing time on a Friday (when drinkers have been paid) is the worst time for accidents and DUI arrests in the whole week.

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2002, 10:23:00 PM »
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Hey, wait a minute - where is Toad? I hope his airline has not gone belly up and left him stranded thousands of miles from home. I don't think he works for UAL, as they fly to LHR and I know Toad doesn't.


Your concern is touching.

He is in Lincoln, Nebraska visiting his aged mother and father in the company of his brother.

Today, the brothers installed a big new HD in the father's computer and also went hunting on the Great Plains with a nice litte Irish Labrador. Bag was 3 fine rooster pheasant and 3 quail in just about 3 hours of walking. Most enjoyable.


Tomorrow they will roll out the Father's Fairchild PT-26 and go flying. It will also be most enjoyable.

Toad is reading and posting sparingly as his Father's computer is still on a 56K modem and that is distressingly slow for one used to cable. He will also be checking into putting in a DSL line here before he leaves.

Say "toodle-pip" to your nannies for me.
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2002, 10:25:00 PM »
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Your concern is touching.

He is in Lincoln, Nebraska visiting his aged mother and father in the company of his brother.

Today, the brothers installed a big new HD in the father's computer and also went hunting on the Great Plains with a nice litte Irish Labrador. Bag was 3 fine rooster pheasant and 3 quail in just about 3 hours of walking. Most enjoyable.


Tomorrow they will roll out the Father's Fairchild PT-26 and go flying. It will also be most enjoyable.

Toad is reading and posting sparingly as his Father's computer is still on a 56K modem and that is distressingly slow for one used to cable. He will also be checking into putting in a DSL line here before he leaves.

Say "toodle-pip" to your nannies for me.


Dammit Toad, I publish two  posts just to get this one off the map, and you come and bump it! :)

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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2002, 10:38:07 PM »
God my head started throbbing not even a third through that Beetle......

please God, make beetle stop!

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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2002, 10:47:53 PM »
Mr. Toad :)  Let us know how that disk drive installation went. I hope you installed Norton AntiVirus ;) And hope you get good flying weather for your flight. I take it it's VFR in that thing? Why no chocolate lab this time?

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« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2002, 08:32:34 AM »
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On such trips, there simply isn’t time for drinking. Besides which, folks who depend on their vehicles to the extent that you do would be far less likely to risk their licences by driving while intoxicated.


you'd think so, huh?

sadly it doesn't really play out that way.  many of the people who drive those long miles (I do work with quite a few of them from time to time) find all this driving severly cuts into their drinking time.  it is not at all uncommon to find guys getting off work and starting their 40-100 mile drive home with the 12-pack on the seat next to them.  if they loose their liscense they just drive without it.

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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2002, 08:47:44 AM »
Oh... I get it... this wasn't just another badly thought out wall-o-words trying to stave off some sort of 'America' envy... No... this was beetles "troll" to see how badly he could get beaten up again.

as for british cars being done right the first time... no wonder you are rolling on the floor with laughter.   That's ok tho... ford fixed your jags so they're not quite so bad now.  

you don't see any modified cars in limeyland because your nannies think it's not good for you... you might put an eye out.
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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2002, 08:58:20 AM »
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I bet you give a lot of speeches to your pets.


I'd love to hear the cats rebuttal.

Oh.. and Laz... remember Robert Lucas... the prince of darkness?? The guy that never drove at night or in the rain....

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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2002, 09:10:51 AM »
he doesn't have any pets because they wandered off during one of his speeches and never came back.

It's Joe lucas... the prince of darkness... the man who feels that waterproofing electrical systems takes the adventure out of motoring... lucky thing it never rains in limeyland.
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