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Offline Vulcan

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« on: December 11, 2002, 09:05:07 PM »
Travelling home last night I spoted a patch of white out of the corner of my eye, tucked up in some bushes. A cop with a laser... damnit! I have a pair of forward firing jammers but no rear protection :(

So this cop gives chase, I immediately grab my radar detector off the dash and throw it under my seat - usually if they see a detector they show no mercy. Anyway he pulls me over, "you were doing 112km/h in a 100 zone". I apologised, searched for a lame excuse (Tailwind!), and he was just about to let me off when all off a sudden another patrol car rounds the bend going in the opposite direct.

From under my seat comes a BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP KA BAND BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP KA BAND BLEEP BLEEP . Cop looks at me funny like, peers into the car "is that a radar detector"... "ahhh yeah" (very sheepishly) - cop proceeds to write ticket :(  

On the bright side Bel 980's are really sensitive and can still pick up Ka band from under your seat!

Anyway, I ordered a Bel Prolaser 904 with bellybutton coverage today.

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2002, 09:23:13 PM »
Damn dude.  :(

I feel your pain.

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2002, 09:30:25 PM »
Yeah, I hate it when those damm cops catch me breaking the law...bastards.  :(


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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2002, 09:33:34 PM »
Ha ha that's funny, bet the cop got a laugh with his buddies back at the station  :)


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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2002, 09:37:05 PM »
I remember one time I got a warning on my old detector but the cop was driving the opposite direction.  I had about 1 sec of warning and couldn't get it slowed down in time.  He hangs a U and pulls me over and I'm too stunned to even try to hide the detector.  He walks up and he's like "How's that detector working out for you?"  :D

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2002, 09:42:26 PM »
nice story,

it's good to know that my obeying the speed limit and having absolutely no tickets saving me time, money and anguish :)


oh and humiliation , can't forget humiliation. :D
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2002, 09:50:04 PM »
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I remember one time I got a warning on my old detector but the cop was driving the opposite direction.  I had about 1 sec of warning and couldn't get it slowed down in time.  He hangs a U and pulls me over and I'm too stunned to even try to hide the detector.  He walks up and he's like "How's that detector working out for you?"  :D


How does that work?  They can gauge your speed while in motion themselves?  Unless they were in cruise control, I don't see how they can use the closure rate minus their own speed (varying no doubt) as grounds for a ticket.  There's room for error... you got a ticket for that funky?
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2002, 09:50:27 PM »
Last two times I was pulled over, I received warnings:

1. Phoenix to Tucson, 91 in a 75mph.

  Cop: "do you know how fast you were going"
  Me: "about 90"

  Cop: "now, why were you going 90?"

  Me: "to be honest I didn't notice my speed until I saw you"

  Cop: "well slow it down"

2. Phoenix to Tucson, 85 in 75.  Got a warning again.


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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2002, 09:52:52 PM »
sure are Nuke!  

First ticket Milwaukee -> Madison.. 86 in a 65.  WITH a probationary license (points double).  Almost lost my driving privies... turns out I got off with a faulty speedometer... lucky for the circumstances I guess.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2002, 10:13:57 PM »
Prolly made Gman's day.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2002, 10:20:01 PM »
(Joke)

Mr. Jones is happily driving along in his newly aquired (enter sports car of choice) when he notices the tell-tale flashing lights of a police cruiser behind him.

Now, he was driving rather spiritedly, and perhaps had broken the local speed limit.

Either way, Mr. Jones wasnt about to end his Sunday drive with a ticket.  He opens the throttle and speeds away from the cop.  A chase ensues for about five minutes when Mr. Jones gets board and decides to pull over.

The cruiser pulls in behind him and walks up to the (enter sports car of choice).

Mr. Jones expects the cop to be angry, but hes not...

Cop: "Its 4:30 on Sunday and I have half an hour left on my shift.  If you can give me a reason Ive never heard before that explains why you tried running from me, Ill let you go."

Mr. Jones: "Officer, my wife left me for a Policeman last week and I thought you were bringing her back."

Cop: "Have a nice day."

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2002, 10:27:22 PM »
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How does that work?  They can gauge your speed while in motion themselves?  Unless they were in cruise control, I don't see how they can use the closure rate minus their own speed (varying no doubt) as grounds for a ticket.  There's room for error... you got a ticket for that funky?


Pretty sure it's built in to the radar system/speedometer that it'll simply subtract the cops speed from the radar speed... or something like that.

It's happened to me before, I couldn't get out of it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2002, 11:59:20 PM »
Yep the system they have figures in the speed of their car.  They get a relative speed from the gun then subtract out their speed.  The answer (assuming the gun is working right) is actually conservative, because I don't believe they factor in the lateral offset between the lanes.

Speed laws are basically a road usage tax.  If you want to use the roads as God and Henry Ford intended them to be used, you have to pay a little extra.  :)

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2002, 01:49:22 AM »
About 3 months after rodney king verdict. I was driving hom from work in Maywood Ca. (surburb of LA) to my house in La. Cresenta in the hills above LA.

 After working late to about 9pm i was speeding about 80 in 55 zone. no one around I see headlights turn on from car sitting on the on ramp to the highway. Right away I know I've been had.


 I make sure pistol is unloaded and in its case. I wait for cop to walk up to door. He Asked me for my lic and reg. I gave it to him and waited in my car. About 2mins both he and his partner were asking me to step out of car.

 I'm a big man 6'4" 325lbs the partner dwarf me in size at least 6'6' about a good 290 all muscle. Other cop was 6'1 or 2 and in great shape. Both were Black officers I am white.


 lead cop turns to his partner and says "Look here buba we got us a white Rodney" I smiled a little i think. Next his parnter says I don't see any cameras do you bigjim. Now I get real nervous and look around for cars. Buba say think we should give some payback seem like it could be fun/ ( now in my mind i'm thinking shouldn't have unloaded gun). as they both give me looks that made me sure, it was going to get nasty. They both start laughing thier tulips off. I sure was pissed at first but not enough to give them toejam.  

 They look at me and say have a nice day we just thought it would be funny, Only thing i was happy about was the no ticket.



 whats funny is They took off name plates and hate never even got badge numbers lol. Can look back and laugh now but not then. :)
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2002, 03:08:55 AM »
Wrong honey.

Current Police radar techology is Ka Band DSP run technology. Using good old fashioned doppler calculations. Same as Lidar (Laser), it uses doppler calculations to work out your speed, of course the problem with Lidar is it can only track on 'object', ie not the ground (or background), so Lidar has to be used stationary.

Most older radar detectors have problems detecting Ka band. The new ones pick it up easily. However new Ka Instand on radar is virtually undetectable in standby mode, the only thing that gives it away is when they 'fire' instant on the signal is much stronger than usual and can be picked up around 10km away. So on the open road you get fairly good warning as long as theres other traffic around.

Because Lidar and Ka band use doppler calculations they also give a lower speed reading as the angle of deflection reading the speed increases. IE, at 0 degrees offset (12 o'clock) the reading is perfect, at 90 degrees the reading is 0 (zero), at 180 degrees (6 o'clock) the reading is perfect.

In NZ our Police are equiped wayyyyyy ahead of the US cops in terms of speed detection. All highway patrol type vehicles have Ka band (digital) as well as Lidar (Laser), stand patrol vehicles have K band (analog). We also have Ka band Speed Photo Radar in mobile vehicles, and pressure trigger mounted speed photo camera's in permanant mountings.

Currently in NZ if you exceed the speed limit by 10km/h you HAVE to be booked. They are trying to lower it to 5km/h. IE, do 105km/h in a 100km/h zone you get booked. Plus we have demerit points, too many points (about 4 speeding tickets) and you lose your license for up to 2 years.

As funked said, for the most part its nothing more than revenue collection. As an example, near where I live there is a stretch of highway which is a real killer. We used to live on a the main road leading up to it. Every weekend we would hear the ambulances (and before the soap box bunch talker about ambulances responding to speeders like me, more than often it was an old fart losing control and crossing into the oncoming traffic). Anyway, Govt refuses to build an alternative route recommended by a roading study. No, they're keen on getting more cameras out there.

I do a fair bit of travelling, hence the 'countermeasures' collection :)


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Originally posted by funkedup
Yep the system they have figures in the speed of their car.  They get a relative speed from the gun then subtract out their speed.  The answer (assuming the gun is working right) is actually conservative, because I don't believe they factor in the lateral offset between the lanes.

Speed laws are basically a road usage tax.  If you want to use the roads as God and Henry Ford intended them to be used, you have to pay a little extra.  :)
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