Author Topic: HT, set us straight  (Read 489 times)

Offline Furious

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3243
HT, set us straight
« on: December 27, 2002, 01:18:31 PM »
HT,

I have seen many posts lately deriding your damage model.

Now, it has always been my assumption that the damage model is far more advanced than one would expect from what they see of the damage graphics.

And it seems, although I might be crazy, that the duration of oil leaks vary in the same plane as do other types of similar damage.

Could you please post some data with regard to the DM?



Thanks

F.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2002, 01:21:10 PM by Furious »

Offline JB73

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8780
HT, set us straight
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2002, 01:22:33 PM »
dont let JB42 see this LOL... he's been getting "radiator" hit from directly above in a 109 (actually like 5-6 sorties in a row "radiator" hit from various angles:()

i would also like to see the basics behind the damage model myself.. how it works and such so i can better understand the game.
I don't know what to put here yet.

Offline anton

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 456
      • http://n/a
HT, set us straight
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2002, 01:53:40 PM »
this is the best damage modeling ive seen. shoot left wing- left wing falls off, shoot tail-tail falls off. In AW, shoot anything- whole plane blows up.

Of course there will always be room to improve, & I agree that there are some problems,  as a yak pilot my radiator pops from very odd angles as well. But this is the best there is & im sure they are working on improvements. But IMO the modeling is the best ive ever played.

 Ford Motor Co. didnt go from producing the modelT to producing the Excursion over nite, the technology grew with time......
Anton

Offline Hortlund

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4690
HT, set us straight
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2002, 01:58:17 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by anton
this is the best damage modeling ive seen. shoot left wing- left wing falls off, shoot tail-tail falls off.


Something tells me you havent tried IL-2 yet.

Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4287
HT, set us straight
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2002, 02:03:59 PM »
Il2's DM is nice, and different... but it's nothing but a series of fudged numbers from the point that the first damage occurs until that part breaks off.

Otherwise, it's identical to AH.
-SW

Offline Wotan

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7201
HT, set us straight
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2002, 02:14:49 PM »
ah has 3 points of damage on the wings aileron wingtip whole wing. IL2 is about numbers like ah but alot more of them. A whole in the wing in il2 while a good graphic actually effects flight.

I think when people in ah ask for a new dm they arent talking strictly visual graphics. They are asking for more "numbers". The only thing that really bugs me about the DM in ah is that bombers are easy kills. I are were to ask for an improvement in would be for the bombers.

As for fighters except for the occassional seemingly 1 ping hispano kills (or parts flying off) I think it works well.

To me gunnery range is more of a concern. But you can argue that this is a result of range counters, icons and hit sprits.

Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4287
HT, set us straight
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2002, 02:20:50 PM »
Yup.. but in Il2 if even the smallest part of your wing becomes detached (say a wing tip)... the plane is immediately uncontrollable.

While there were several instances of planes coming back to base with in excess of 5 feet removed from a wing in WW2...
-SW

Offline Yeager

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 10167
HT, set us straight
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2002, 02:48:15 PM »
There aint any F4Us or F6Fs in IL2, yet ;)
"If someone flips you the bird and you don't know it, does it still count?" - SLIMpkns

Offline Wlfgng

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5252
      • http://www.nick-tucker.com
HT, set us straight
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2002, 02:58:57 PM »
f4u's coming though... so I've heard

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18219
HT, set us straight
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2002, 05:50:38 PM »
I think it is a good balance of realism and gameplay

would like to see improvements in ship damage, should be able to kill its ack without having to sink the ship
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder