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Offline Chaos68

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$60 bucks and i need to spend it!
« on: January 02, 2003, 05:27:53 AM »
I have $60 bucks and i need to buy a computer game,

What games are you guys playing that are really good and worth the money.


..btw i already have an account with AH :)

Offline Hortlund

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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2003, 05:45:15 AM »
Hearts of Iron if you like grand strategy ww2.

Europa Universalis 2 if you like grand strategy 1400-1819.

Combat mission 2 if you like tactical warfare in ww2.

IL2 if you want a great flight sim.

Medieval total war if you like warfare ala the crusades (I think its from 1050 to 1400 or something like that).

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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2003, 07:53:51 AM »
Hortland - I downloaded Europa Universalis II from kazaa and it seems such a great game - but I can't seem to get into it. It seems overwhelmingly complicated (compared to games like Imperialism).

I tried playing the Grand Campaign as the English (obviously), but my armies on the continent kept getting battered and attrited to nothing. Pretty quickly I had no money for reinforcements and the provinces were lost. Got any tips?

I also tried the American War of Independance one as Britain and the game seemed so vast - there were so many provinces and so many threats.

I really want to stick with it though - its just a little overwhelming to a casual strat gamer like.

Downloaded Hearts of Iron - think I will buy this one when it's out over here.

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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2003, 08:09:01 AM »
You have to remember the scale of EU2. Basically you are running a country through war and peace over 400 years.

Use diplomacy alot to reach your goals instead of military might. Every nation has a "badboy" rating that will influence it alot.  If you go to the diplo screen and chech out your own nation you will see a text under the flag that says something like "we have a slightly tarnished reputation" or "we have a bad reputation". That is your badboy rating, everytime you do something bad, like start a war without casus belli, or annex another nation, your badboy value rises. If that value is high enough, every country in the world will hate you, and everyone will want to see you destroyed. If this seems a bit unrealistic or so, think USSR in the cold war, for a good example of a nation with a high badboy value :)

Your armies will die to attrition alot. And frankly, attrition was the big killer in those days. Most soldiers died of starvation or disease rather than enemy action. Click on one of your armies. You will see in the army info box a tiny deaths head, it will be either gray or green or red. Hover the mouse over that deaths head, and you will see the current effects of attrition on that army. Normally, an army that is just camped in one of your own provinces wont suffer any attrition at all. But there are some provinces that cannot support any army at all. One of the worst examples is present day St Petersburg. I have seen soviet armies of over 40 000 men die in that province during a few winther months. When you are laying siege to another provice, keep a watchful eye on that attrition meter, because if you dont, you will start loosing tens of thousands of men during one siege. Rule of thumb is never besiege an enemy province during winter...and never ever ever do that in Russia.

My suggestion is start with a smaller country and learn the game that way. Try Sweden :) England is a huge nation, but England has huge problems too. Start with a small nation, learn how to take care of your armies, learn to take care of your fleets (attrition there too...the first time you try to sail to the Americas you are going to lose ~50% of the fleet). Learn how to improve your economy and how to manage the merchants. Promote bailiffs to tax collectors etc etc. I'll be happy to give you some advice if you want. I have been playing EU for more than two years, and it is truly a magnificent game. It takes a while to get into it though.

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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2003, 08:40:27 AM »
Cheers Hortland. :) Like I said, I love the concept behind it - the level of detail is astounding. But that's a double edged sword, I guess. I thought England in the early days would be pretty small fry - they only had a foothold in France.

Heh, I could try and turn Sweden into a colonial super-power. :)

BTW - have you played Legion?

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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2003, 09:13:29 AM »
Stay away from legion...it sucks really bad.

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2003, 11:55:17 AM »
hold onto it for a month or 2 and get forgoton battles (if you have a good machine).
I just finished hitman2.  very good game but no multiplayer at all, so once you've finished it, it's over.  still great fun to kill some time

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2003, 11:57:07 AM »
give it to your favorite charity ...

... didn't you just have Xmas?
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2003, 12:52:43 PM »
computer games are bad for you. Give the money to me instead:D

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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2003, 01:38:40 PM »
nah i just spent some of it on 2 1:47 models of a P51 and  P47, paint and Glue.

i realized that theres not many good games that apeal to me right now.

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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2003, 01:43:44 PM »
Wait for FB. IMHO

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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2003, 03:16:39 PM »
IF you have kick-butt hardware

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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2003, 04:07:30 PM »
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IF you have kick-butt hardware


Or you can turn down setting...