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Offline BangerAK

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AH2 needs B24's
« on: February 13, 2003, 02:33:43 PM »
AH2 should include a B-24 Liberator. AH1 lacked this.

THis bomber was A LOT better than the B-17. It could carry more bombs, fly higher, faster, and I think had a greater range.

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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2003, 02:58:52 PM »
I agree, b24 saw a LOT of action esp in the pacific.

Big plane, good payload, fun to fly.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2003, 03:28:07 PM »
B-25s, as well! Now that is a fun aircraft, and still has substantial gun positions!

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2003, 03:36:37 PM »
Yes, the liberator is needed

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2003, 07:02:15 PM »
If i remember correctly the 24 could not fly as high as the 17, and could not fly as fast as the 17 at high altitude. Plus it had that problem with the wings being weak. BUt other than that


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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2003, 07:07:54 PM »
They also built a lot more of them for a couple of reasons:
1. They were easier too build (more in less time).
2. They needed more replacements (easier to shoot down :D)

It definitely belongs in the game, but so do many other planes yet to be modeled. Germans and Japanese need heavy bombers more than US at present.
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Re: AH2 needs B24's
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2003, 07:25:05 PM »
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Originally posted by BangerAK
THis bomber was A LOT better than the B-17. It could carry more bombs, fly higher, faster, and I think had a greater range.

LOL

I talked with one veteran who flew as a gunner in both the B-17 and B-24.

He wouldn't say anything bad about the B-17 and couldn't say anything good about the B-24.  He hated the B-24.

The B-24 had four advatages over B-17:

1) Easier to build
2) Longer range
3) Faster cruising speed
4) Larger payload

The B-17 had these advantages:

1) Tougher
2) Better defensive firepower
3) Higher operating altitude
4) Faster top speed


Unless HTC models cruising speed as a requirement (and frankly I wouldn't be the least surprised if the ToD at least models it) the B-17 is faster, tougher, better armed, flies higher but carries 2,000lbs* less and is a bit shorter ranged.


* The B-17 is modeled with it's typical bomb load of 6,000lbs, not its maximum load of 17,000lbs.  I would expect the B-24 to be modeled with its typical load of 8,000lbs.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2003, 08:00:36 PM »
As others have said ... the 24 ain't neccesarily better than the 17 ... but I agree: AHII:TOD needs the 24 ... and the 25 ... and a more rounded out Pacific ps.

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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2003, 01:37:41 AM »
Perhaps a Jap bomber would be better.

I'd definitely like to see the Pe-2 or Tu-2 over the B-25.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2003, 02:47:25 AM »
Then again, the bomb damage model may need to be refined, and then we will need some more bombsorts. For instance, it's not so real being able to strafe shore batteries to the death, etc etc. For that we need the Tallboy/Grand Slam for the Lannie...
I read somewhere that the B17 had a lot higher ceiling than the Lancaster. I wonder why, and if it still were so if the Lancaster was carrying the same load as a B17, not the double.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2003, 07:27:50 AM »
Hmm I have 2 surving relatives who flew in the b-24. Both will say it was a tough bird and will staunchly defend it against the myth that it was weaker than the b-17.
Anyhow it would be nice to have it from a historical perspective
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2003, 12:17:03 PM »
My Dad's uncle flew one out of North Africa.  He always spoke highly of the plane and never said one thing against it.

This is a plane that has been too long neglected by online flight sims.  Please put it in AH2.

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2003, 12:54:12 PM »
Not necesarily neglected. Just sorta the underdog.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2003, 07:34:35 PM »
Isnt she beautiful....that sexy piece of aircraft ;)

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2003, 08:21:06 PM »
She can maneuver well, too....which, in retrospect, was a major problem. The thin Davis wing made her hard to handle in formation...