Author Topic: L'Unilateralisme (Read 762 times)

straffo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2003, 09:19:19 AM »

Can't expect anything else from a guy locating Argentina in the Gulf.

Naso · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2003, 09:27:31 AM »

Ils won s'enrager pourquoi vous parlez français.

Escusez-moi pour mon Français, il y a beaocoup de temp que je ne parle plus il, et j'ai oublie tous les mots et le riegles.

Salut.

Habu · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2003, 09:28:10 AM »

The fact that in all my many posts on France all you can sieze on is one typo is really quite a compliment.

SLO · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2003, 09:28:25 AM »

unlike you habu....i try not to waste too much time finger pointing and tryin to be witty in my posts....

instead of whinning and squeakin at straffo about why this why that about France....I ASK HIS POV instead....see where i come from we call that CIVILITY...or if u prefer common sense:D

and why should i have rational defense ideas about something that is NOT mine...see I don't live in France....I live 1 hr away from the US/Canada boarder.....went many times to the states.....watch pretty much only american TV(reports...documentaries....sp ecials).....but unlike you...I also watch FRENCH tv....(reports doc...specials)

so my rational thinking is done in 2 languages...from 2 diff. perspectives(actually 3).....does that make me smarter....no not really....but it does give me a certain POV for which will be diff. then yours..

my last post in french to straffo ....I mentionned to em that France.....opss...mostly it prez...Chirac is royally gettin on my nerves.....I told em Y

He came back with a solid defense that will make me think a little harder.....but have no fear....I'll go thru his defense and pluck a french feather from his hide:D

straffo · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2003, 09:30:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Naso
Ils won s'enrager pourquoi vous parlez français.

Escusez-moi pour mon Français, il y a beaocoup de temp que je ne parle plus il, et j'ai oublie tous les mots et le riegles.

Salut.

beuhh ...

C'est presque comme L'italien

du moins a l'écrit

Habu · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2003, 09:53:13 AM »

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Originally posted by SLO
unlike you habu....i try not to waste too much time finger pointing and tryin to be witty in my posts....

snip

so my rational thinking is done in 2 languages...from 2 diff. perspectives(actually 3).....does that make me smarter....no not really....but it does give me a certain POV for which will be diff. then yours..

my last post in french to straffo ....I mentionned to em that France.....opss...mostly it prez...Chirac is royally gettin on my nerves.....I told em Y

He came back with a solid defense that will make me think a little harder.....but have no fear....I'll go thru his defense and pluck a french feather from his hide:D

SLO I used to like France and have been there many times. I even worked for one of the French Oil companies for a while. (Good job, nice people, great pay). My beef with France is based on what I see them doing these past few years with regards to the EU, Mugabe, Iraq etc.

I sometimes think they do things just to be noticed, like a whiny spoiled child, what else would justify their actions?

The big change is that now in North American ( and many other countries in Europe I see) people (not just governments) are beginning to really hate the French because of their actions.

I am afraid that this is a real change that is not just based on their actions at the US lately. When common men on the street begin to say these things too you know that it is not healthy for the long term relationship with France and the EU and the US and the rest of the world.

Straffo just shows that people in France really do not think there is anything wrong with blackmailing the EU to let Mugabe in then turning around and claiming that England etc supported the decision. Such logic is baffling to me. Does he think everyone is stupid and would agree with such a stupid argument? I am afraid that I really think he does.

And if that is an example of the French character then it is only going to get worse for them I am sure.

You cannot have too many friends in the world today. EU countries and the US are good friends to have. I wonder what type of friends France is winning over these days by their actions? Perhaps Libya will be a good friend to them in the future when all those US tourists are no longer coming to Paris. Then France can show Paris to all their new Middle Eastern and African tourists.

SLO · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2003, 10:12:33 AM »

thx you for for not pointing the finger:) or bashing straffo....

I tend to agree with you as to France doin some real wierd watermelon these past times.....and I mentionned that to straffo....but don't forget France is NOT Iraq....there just defending there interest in a way I find confusing(I'm not used to seein France take such agressive stand on there POV).....

but so has the states(agressive stand)....lucky Powell(hope he runs next time around)is there cause the hawks(chenney....rums...wolfi) would be at war with everyone....I pretty much look to Powell when I watch US foreign relations....he's agressive but just....with a good read as to the mood of the UN.....

I agree that Saddam should be ousted.....but to do it WITHOUT the UN's OK is just not good in my book....many countries DEPEND on the UN to voice there opinions...if you take that away from them....chaos insuse

Hortlund · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2003, 11:49:33 AM »

You know, its hard not to laugh actually.

When straffo is confronted with some argument that he doesnt really know how to respond to (i e when even the good 'ol "I give a sweet to you"-replies wont work) he tends to either
a) start posting in french,
b) put you on his ignore list, or
c) put the entire thread on his ignore list.

Then he comes back a few minutes or hours later and post the same crap in another thread..or in the same thread. He keeps posting until he is cornered again, then he either
a) starts posting in french,
b) puts you on his ignore list, or
c) puts the entire thread on his ignore list.

Now SLO, I could not give two rats bellybutton about how many private emails he gets from his friends in the MA who supports him...I still think his defence of France is 99% BS. A few secret emails of support dont change that at all. Also one might wonder why the supporters dont want to reply in the thread but rather shoot off a secret email of support...

As for you straffo, you should make up your mind. Either you think Chiracs policy is ok, or you think that its not ok. If you go back in all the threads on Mugabe, Iraq or Economics, you will note that you are arguing both sides almost constantly. In one post you'll say "He is doing the right thing" in another post in the same thread you'll say "I dont agree with him". Then, as a compliment to this rather peculiar stance, you add a couple of insults, jokes, or unknown stuff posted in French.

ONLY A HANDFUL HERE UNDERSTANDS FRENCH AND NO ONE CAN BE BOTHERED TO RUN YOUR POSTS THROUGH BABLEFISH.

So when you post stuff in French, you might as well post random numbers instead, because to 90% of the readers here, it makes about as much sense.

midnight Target · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2003, 12:00:32 PM »

Don't you think we have bashed France enough?

How the hell do you expect Straffo to react? Then you tell him to shut up when you don't like his posts! BS Steve. If Sweden were getting the same level of vitriol you would be getting your back up too.

Hey everyone! France disagrees with us. Get over it!

SLO · « **Reply #24 on:** February 21, 2003, 12:56:03 PM »

thx u target....but hortland is right in some aspects

difference is he's french....and tryin his best to type his ideas in English(while bein attacked on all fronts)....which can get real confusin at times...so i give straffo a little more lattitude....damn i get confused to sometimes....mostly its in the structuring of phrases to make others understand your ideas...

patience is a virtue hortland.....try it sometime

no offense intended

Steve · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2003, 01:07:49 PM »

Hey SLO.. how ya been?

straffo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2003, 02:01:43 PM »

SLO pour avoir mon opinion il te suffit de rechercher mes posts

Mais que l'on ne vienne pas me dire que Hortlund ou Habu sont des gents objectifs il suffit de regarder les threads qu'ils ont posté.

Aux dernieres nouvelles je n'ai pas commencé à les agresser ce sont eux qui on commencé a me pomper l'air.

De plus pour prendre le cas de Hortlund que pense tu de ma signature ?

Renseigne toi sur ce qui c'est passé a Oradour sur Glane et compare avec cette signature ensuite il te restera a chercher dans ce forum tout les posts ou Monsieur Hortlund exprime sa tres interessante vision de la barbarie nazie.

Quand à l'autre duestiste je pense sincerement que sa derniere copine devait être du Quebec ou de France pour que celui-ci ne fasse que dans le primaire de bas étage.

De même je m'interroge quand je vois les deux infâmes souligner le coté monstreux de Mugabé ils dormaient bien quand celui-ci ne tuait que des noirs cela ne les perturbait pas plus que ça ...
Et tout d'un coup depuis que celui-ci vient en France c'est limite si ce n'est pas nous Français qui l'avons mis au pouvoir... je sais que nous n'avons pas toujours été propres en politique étrangére mais dans ce cas précis je crois franchement que l'on y est pour rien.

Habu · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2003, 03:02:48 PM »

Hey Straffo check out my new sig.

Hortlund · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2003, 03:33:11 PM »

Oh really classy Straffo...

Since I saw my name in there, together with alot of words like nazi and racist, I decided to translate your post on bablefish.

You want to play it that way...fine. But you should be aware that badmouthing someone in a different language on a public forum is extremely bad manners. ESPECIALLY if you are accusing someone of being a racist without them having one chance of defending themselves.

The thing is Straffo...about your sig line...my quote. See I dont think you understand it actually. What I'm saying is that Oradur-Sur-Glane cannot be described as an allied warcrime...since the guilty ones were the Germans. Now I dont know what the history books look like in France, but in the rest of the world, Germany was not a member of the allies.

You are way over the line here Straffo. Way over the line.

straffo · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2003, 03:54:01 PM »

You didn't even bother to search your original post ?

Concerrning badmouthing it's the proof that babelfish can't translate anything right.

I was figuring how long it would take to someone to notice that ...