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Offline Nifty

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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2003, 03:53:28 PM »
bad udie!  bad bad bad!  ;)  never forget the smiley!

otherwise we'll think you're a mad, raving lunatic!

wait a second...  :D
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Offline slimm50

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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2003, 04:05:08 PM »
Pre-WWI we were an isolationist country, until the Lusitannia(sp.?)  got torp'd. Then after that war we returned to an isolationist point of view. The League of Nations appeased Japan and Germany. So Japan ran rough-shod over Manchuria, and Hitler began his world conquest bid by overrunning Chec. and Poland. After WWII though we realized we couldn't turn a blind eye to world events, so we got involved. Maintained our military might which we had built up during the last war, and when N. K. invaded S.K. we, and the UN, were able to repulse them. Then came Vietnam, because the politicians faught that one instead of leaving it primarily to the generals, we got our heads handed to us.

My point here is that there are always gonna be some small-minded salamanders who want to rule the world. Isolationist views won't keep us out of the conflict, and in fact it allows the conflicts to escalate to world-class proportions. Stay involved, maintain our military strength, and go into any conflict with clear goals in mind and go in to win, no matter what. And let everyone know that, and if they don't like it, they can at least stay out of the way.

(steps down off th soap box and shuffles off to th nearest ice house for a pitcher of MGD)
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2003, 10:28:11 PM »
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Isolationism doesnt work. Especially not for a country depending on cheap oil. Sorry, you are stuck with the rest of us.


We have more than enough cheap oil in our country to last for decades, without importing another drop. If we wanted the oil, we could have taken it the first time, and any time after that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2003, 10:43:10 PM »
What is the state  of our domestic crude reserves again compared to EIA consumption forecasts for the next decade, Lazerus? US Geologic survey figures are fine, generally acceptable.

Charon
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2003, 10:47:42 PM »
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I would LOVE an isolationist era.

I'm AMAZED at how much money we still send to countries, even the ones we aren't exactly friendly with.

Cut the cash, close the borders, take out the trash.



You don't read any history books all that much do you?  Did you know that the Japanese actually thought their attack on Pearl Harbor would cause the U.S. to seek a peaceful resolution because of our isolationist attitudes at the time?

So no thanks, I don't want us to stick our heads in the sand again.


Ack-Ack
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2003, 10:49:55 PM »
yea isolationism worked for china all those years real well. and it worked great for the USSR. You know nazi germany didnt import anything as well. and they sure didnt have a standard of living problem. wait yes they did.
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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2003, 11:11:06 PM »
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I have an even better one,  go to france and remove our dead from saving their sorry tulips in WW2 and then nuke the toejam out of them till they are all dead.


i'll go to bed smiling after readin that one.

i'm of the opinion a united coalition could have forced saddam into exile. the war could have been avoided. now american boys are gonna have to die to get saddam outta iraq. thanks a bunch, france.

i'm with yah udie.. somtimes , yah just gotta say 'diddly the smiley'.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2003, 11:21:49 PM »
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"The following year, De Gaulle withdrew France from the NATO military command and asked President Lyndon Johnson to remove U.S. troops from France. A seething Secretary of State Dean Rusk flew to Paris to seek clarification: "Does your order include the bodies of American soldiers in France's cemeteries?"
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2003, 11:22:21 PM »
Oh, yeah......

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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2003, 01:43:32 AM »
You know it was not that simple.
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« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2003, 01:51:23 AM »
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You know it was not that simple.



Never is with the french now is it.... Oh well we'll do it the french way then, give up..
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« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2003, 02:19:26 AM »
When you are a soverign country do you give full control of your army to another country ?

If so why isn't the US army controlled by Canada for exemple ?
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2003, 02:59:59 AM »
So you are saying france left NATO beacuse it wanted to maintain military independence and decision making authority and they couldn't do that within the NATO framework becuse other countires might not share the same defense priorities as france?
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2003, 03:43:22 AM »
yes it's exactly that.
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2003, 03:54:01 AM »
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yes it's exactly that.


Glad to have your support for the USA's stance vis a vis the UN, France, Germany Russia etc. on the current Iraq crisis.
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