Author Topic: US woman killed protesting in Gaza (Read 3883 times)

blur · « **Reply #75 on:** March 17, 2003, 08:05:14 PM »

Politics aside.

What kind of a man runs over a woman with a bulldozer???

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml

Vulcan · « **Reply #76 on:** March 17, 2003, 08:12:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
Whether the young lady was asking for it or not, it was absolutely heartless to run her over. I saw this kid on television. If she weighed 110 lbs, it would be a lot. Anyone could have taken her by the arm and escorted her away. Israel could have simply deported her back to the USA.

This was a very poor decision, and is not going to help Israel's public image at all. They had better lop off a few heads over this.

Gump was right, "stupid is as stupid does." In this case, the people involved were just as stupid as the girl, and criminal at the least.

For those of you who think she had it coming, would you still think so if she were your kid? Misguided, probably. Since when is being misguided a capital offence?

As I understand it Widewing, this was an armoured bulldozer, with views not unlike a tank. The driver did not see her.

Rasker · « **Reply #77 on:** March 17, 2003, 08:15:57 PM »

I saw some news footage of her speaking, she was nearly foaming at the mouth, reminded me of a Bader-Meinhof guerilla from the 1970's in Germany. It's seems that flag-burning pic of her in the other thread was accurate characterization. Every time I accumulate a bit of sympathy for the Palestinians, along comes one of their friends or more colorful compatriots to move me back toward the Israeli side. Maybe the time has come for Israel to just set up a defensible border and wall it off in a secure manner. Just forget trying to deal with those on the other side.

Martlet · « **Reply #78 on:** March 17, 2003, 08:24:23 PM »

Who cares what kind of a bulldozer it was, and whether or not he saw her. A nation doesn't deviate from it's course of action because some moron feels they have the right to make policy.

Protest all you want. Try to change policy through the proper channels. Stand in front of a bulldozer, expect to get squashed.

SirLoin · « **Reply #79 on:** March 17, 2003, 08:32:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Protest all you want. Try to change policy through the proper channels. Stand in front of a bulldozer, expect to get squashed.

How quickly we forget about Ghandi and that peacefull demonstrations are the only effective and meaningfull protests.

Hangtime · « **Reply #80 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:14:14 PM »

g; you seem to be enjoying yourself immensely with those photos.

why doncha try jerkin yerself off with those pics for awile.

they ain't doing anything for us.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #81 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:19:45 PM »

Some guys disrespects all what's been fighting for in WO2
Freedom of speech and relegion.

Under the barbaric nazi regime such things was everyday buisness.

Sad some people think so straight.

Why not kick an old wo2 war veteran.

Having another opinion doesn't mean u have to die.

She wasn't a murdering terrorist

Toad · « **Reply #82 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:25:24 PM »

There seems to be a huge misunderstanding about Freedom Of Speech.

Yes, it absolutely means you get to voice your opinion about things.

It DOES NOT mean that after that no one else gets to voice THEIR opinion about the opinion you just voiced.

You want to criticize? Fine. Just don't get all upset when someone else criticizes you. Free Speech works both ways.

rc51 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:36:48 PM »

Idiot verses bulldozer New flash Bulldozer wins.

Hangtime · « **Reply #84 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:39:17 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Hangtime, that says a lot more about you than it does me.

FYI that picture was on the front page of Norwegian newspapers under the headline "Here the American demonstrator gets crushed by Israeli military bulldozer!" for all to see. The truth hurts don't it?

it says i'm sick and tired of seeing images of dead american women and kids, amazinhunk.

shall i put up pics of slaughtered norwegians?

whatever the reason for her death. the fact is enough. you don't need to assail us with the pictures over and over, spreading them from thread to thread.

Glasses · « **Reply #85 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:46:59 PM »

I say let the Palestinians and Isrealis finish each other off, then the middle east will be very much quite.

Gunthr · « **Reply #86 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:51:53 PM »

Wait just a minute here. We don't know what happened . It could have been an accident...

its dangerous to play around in a construction area - and this could have been going on for hours. She could have been walking backwards and fell without the driver seeing it.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #87 on:** March 17, 2003, 09:52:11 PM »

Hey Gscholz you are bieung a pice of toejam in this thread. Why dont post some picture of israeil busses or night clubs?

Whats that? No? You cant find any? I bet that doesnt fit into your prejudices of Isreail being evil and the palestenians being little angels needing protection by young rich western salamander radicals.

I never imagined i'd say this seriously to anyone but i think you are letting you anti-semetism show through loud an clear. Thats incresingly becoming the only possibilty as you simply refuse to even consider it was an accident or that the palestenians arent guity too.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #88 on:** March 17, 2003, 10:01:55 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
How quickly we forget about Ghandi and that peacefull demonstrations are the only effective and meaningfull protests.

Agreed... and had the PLO, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc. been following civil disobedience rather than suicide bombing pizza parlors and city busses, they would be celebrating the 20th anniversary of an independent Palestine.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #89 on:** March 17, 2003, 10:19:25 PM »

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Originally posted by SirLoin
Sad.

Pathetic.

Notice the "Skulls" mounted on top of the blade....Guess she wasn't the first person he's run over.

Look closely. For those of you who know nothing of heavy equipment, those "skulls" are the hydraulic rams that raise and lower the blade. The shadows may make them look like skulls to those who do not know better.

Also notice that there are two entirely different bulldozers and two different treelines on the horizon. Not to mention the terrain is different, more different than a couple of passes with a bulldozer can account for.

Oh, and one more thing. Those photos were part of a PLA support group handout, and there were posted on palsolidarity.org. Care to speculate on what the "pal" stands for? Try getting your photos and "eyewitness accounts" from something just a little more reliable than propaganda sites.