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Offline ygsmilo

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Do we care about world opinion?
« on: March 18, 2003, 05:42:15 PM »
I have my own reservations about the course we are on but it looks like to me that the failure of the UN to enforce its resolutions has put us on a path of no return.

After the last few days it has become clear to me that world opinion is against what we (the US) are doing in regards to Iraq.

The question is do we care.

I think that world opinion would be against us if we gave food, shelter, and medical supplies to any nation state out there.  There is major anti-americanism in the world today.  Is it because our standard of living is so much higher than most of the world or that many countries are mirred in self-inflicted poverty.  

So the question is do we care.

I know I used to care what folks thought about the US but not now.  The US has had its share of blunders the last 50 years when it comes to foreign and domestic policy, both Republican and Democrat leadership can be found at fault but the bottom line is that we try to do what we think is right.  Whats right to us seems to not apply to most of the world lately so is that our failing or is it that the world takes offense to anything we do just because we are the US.

I think it is going to boil down to this, either you are with us or against us.  Choose clearly but choose wisely because what most of the world does not understand that the vast majority of the country is moderate, we have our wackos on the Right and on the Left but middle America still decides the direction of the country.  Most importantly middle America has a long memory.

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2003, 05:43:06 PM »
PULL MY FINGER

Offline Habu

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2003, 05:58:38 PM »
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PULL MY FINGER


I predict that you are not long for these forums dude.

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2003, 05:59:20 PM »
yes we care but not enough to allow world opinion to supercede our own convictions.

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2003, 07:00:02 PM »
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yes we care but not enough to allow world opinion to supercede our own convictions.


exactly

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2003, 07:10:02 PM »
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exactly


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Offline Rasker

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2003, 07:17:17 PM »
Depends on whether it's *informed* world opinion or not.  Didn't a lot of people claim the sky would fall if we tried to throw Saddam out of Kuwait in 1990?  And didn't that effort not only decimate his military power, but also prevented him from acquiring nukes within the next two years?  So werent those people totally wrong?  And how many of those mistaken people are back speaking against the current American policy?  And shouldn't they have to wear little bracelets so we can see where they stood in 1990-91?

Offline rc51

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2003, 04:38:12 PM »
PULL MY FINGER AGAIN

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2003, 04:42:37 PM »
What Batz said.

Offline Eagler

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2003, 05:00:24 PM »
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yes we care but not enough to allow world opinion to supercede our own convictions.


ditto

same in personal life also ...
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2003, 05:10:32 PM »
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yes we care but not enough to allow world opinion to supercede our own convictions.



which ,of course, are the supreme, total, absolute, immovable, true ,correct and right convictions. The US stand is correct, the rest of the world isn't.

Its so egocentric...

Its SO typical...
« Last Edit: March 19, 2003, 05:12:51 PM by RRAM »

Offline AKS\/\/ulfe

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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2003, 05:14:29 PM »
YES! The top speed of the 190A5 is off by .003MPH at sea level!!
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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2003, 05:18:07 PM »
I see your point, SW. I think that no other message could be more on topic in this thread, than yours.

congratulations on a well-written, greatly argumented, post!.

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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2003, 05:21:33 PM »
Tell you what RAM, I will post this _AGAIN_ although I am getting tired of having to drag it through topics time after time.

*I* will care what the rest of the world thinks, when the rest of the world can actually stand up for their convictions. (UN resolutions)

Until then, I will go on ignoring what the rest of the world thinks because they obviously can not stand up for what THEY think.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2003, 05:25:25 PM »
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*I* will care what the rest of the world thinks, when the rest of the world can actually stand up for their convictions. (UN resolutions)
 


I don't live around this forums 24/7, so sorry for making you rewrite something you might have said a lot of times before. Now let me tell you my point of view:

UN resolutions (1441) say that ,if inspectors say they can't do their job of supervision of Irak's disarming properly, Irak would have to stand serious consequences.

inspectors have said they need months to fullfit their work, but that it can be done properly.

Now tell me the part of the UN resolutions where it says that if inspectors say that they need some months to do their job, Irak will have to stand serious consequences.