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Offline miko2d

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2003, 03:27:46 PM »
midnight Target: Imperial Ambitions?
Please Miko.... exactly how do you mean? Did we have a colonial empire that I forgot to go visit?

 Ever visited Southern States that once wanted to get out?

 How abouit the plains where indians were exterminated by US military so that government-chartered cartel could build a railroad and get 20 miles strip of land along it?
 Phillipines where quarter to one million people were killed in 1898-1904? The only christian country and only republic in the eastern hemisphere of the time?
 Haiti, Mexico, and other south-american counrties that US corporations liked to do business in?

 Texas that was infiltrated by american settlers and then joined the USA?

 Hawaii that were infiltrated by american settlers that overthrew local government and then joined the USA?

 Joining the WWI in 1917 when the strategic stalemate was achieved and sides were ready to sign the armstice? That prolonged the war by a year, caused bolshevik coup in Russia and establishment of a communist regime. Also enforced intolerable peace conditions and reparations on Germany (which did not start a war but was involved through allied obligations) which resulted in Hitler eventually coming to power and WWII?

 Russia in 1919 where american intervention helpled bolshevics persuade population in the reality of "international oppressors and aggressors" and seriously hurt the popular support for the anti-bolshevic forces in the civil war?

 Hepling French to keep it's Indochina colony and all that Vietnam debacle?

 Toppling elected regime in Iran in 53?

 Supporting Ba'ath and Hussein in toppling lawfull regime in Iraq in 60s?

 Screwing up with other aspiring democratic regimes and helping despots all over the globe?

 I could probably come up with a few others upon some consideration.

 Enforcing dollar as international reserve salary on the world in 1944, then unilateraly refusing to back it with gold in 1973 and collecting $500 billion a year (~10-25% of real GNP) "tribute" in goods and material from the world through printing paper money thay are forced to take?

 Claiming that arabs raised the price of oil 4 times in 70s while it was really the dollar that dropped 4 times against the prevailing currency of that time - gold - and using it as an excuse for intervention and interference with mid-east regimes?

 Sounds pretty imperial to me.

 miko
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2003, 03:28:28 PM »
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So why is it we're told to be prepared for casualties?
Why is it we're told to be prepared for terror attacks?
Where is the link to Iraq and 9/11? - Saburo



One at a time:

1. "So why is it we're told to be prepared for casualties?"
 
How about: Because there will be casualties?

2. "Why is it we're told to be prepared for terror attacks?"

How about: Because there may be terror attacks?

3. "Where is the link to Iraq and 9/11?"

How about:
Al Queda wants WMD.
Iraq has WMD.
Al-Queda is active in the Middle East, near Iraq.
Iraq would presumabley love to see an attack on USA?
Iraq is likely to  give WMD to Al-Queda or other terror groups?
« Last Edit: March 19, 2003, 03:31:09 PM by Gunthr »
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2003, 03:29:57 PM »
slimm50: Worry about?? I thank God for a leader like George W. Bush. It litterally gives me th shivers to think how Gore...

 Whichever imperial socialist party - Reps or Dems - is in power, screw up the government will. That is one thing you can be certain of and not worry about. The details are secondary.

 miko
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2003, 03:38:09 PM »
air head i welcoem good fight in the air..


I still stand by everything i say..

ANd about m ebeing a MAW...

I will always b efaithful to them..I will do my jobb in AH


Bom..Kill and break Bish and rooks up..


But I will not let toejamheads talk about the USA like this.....

Yes other MAW dont agree with me..fine..other Knights wont..other Rook Bish wont..

But you kno what there are that do...

Just liek there are peopl who agree with Sab....yes Bush wants war no matter what..He wants dead bodies all over...

you diddlying morons..i cant beleive you right thius toejam

Yes we shouldnt of attaked Japan...They might of go tmore upset..And Tortured more Humans ..Chinese-British -American South Asian..

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Next big attack on American and/or English soil against our citizens, just don't be shocked ,ok? We're creating an ever bigger pool of terrorists by our lack of human respect around the world.


HOW CAN YOU GUYS LET HIOM GET AWAY WITH THIS toejam!!!!

WHO DOES MORE TO HELP THE WORLD THEN USA!!???
 Yes we arent perfect...Who  is bettr then huh?

yes saburo..you are a hunk of toejam
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2003, 03:45:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunthr
One at a time:

1. "So why is it we're told to be prepared for casualties?"
 
How about: Because there will be casualties?

2. "Why is it we're told to be prepared for terror attacks?"

How about: Because there may be terror attacks?

3. "Where is the link to Iraq and 9/11?"

How about:
Al Queda wants WMD.
Iraq has WMD.
Al-Queda is active in the Middle East, near Iraq.
Iraq would presumabley love to see an attack on USA?
Iraq is likely to  give WMD to Al-Queda or other terror groups?


Why get so complicated?
Iraq provided training to Al-Queda. (per Iraqi defectors)
Mohammed Atta had meetings with Iraqi intelligence agents during the planning phase of the 9-11 attacks. (per Czech intel agency)
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2003, 03:57:13 PM »
shhh funked up...you cant prove that

you want war at any costs

Give Peace a chance...atleast over 12 years



LMFAo...


o well

SAlute:)

hehehe

God Bless our soldiers..Seems like it can get very ugly in that desert..
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2003, 04:02:01 PM »
makes me want to listen to the "imperial march" and pretend the f-16's are tie fighters lol
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2003, 04:03:02 PM »
watch star trek sometime dudes...we will rule the galaxy and occasionally let people with foreign accents or alien DNA to work aboard our glorius starships.
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2003, 07:04:18 PM »
You make a good point there, Funky. I go to extra pains for SuburoS because he's challenged. :D
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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2003, 07:27:51 PM »
"I sure as hell wish our president studied a bit better in world history and US foreign policy when he was a student rather than do coke and party."

I don't think chimpy and his junta ever wanted the inspections to be successful.

President Death likes killing too much to have allowed the inspections to succeed.

On another note what excuse will he use to go into Iran right after Iraq?

With the troops already there I bet he's looking for any reason to go after them too.

I just hope we don't listen to his roulette wheel of excuses for 9 months like with Iraq.
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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2003, 07:32:42 PM »
weazle

go nutz for chimpy!
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2003, 08:07:15 PM »
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"I sure as hell wish our president studied a bit better in world history and US foreign policy when he was a student rather than do coke and party."

I don't think chimpy and his junta ever wanted the inspections to be successful.

President Death likes killing too much to have allowed the inspections to succeed.

On another note what excuse will he use to go into Iran right after Iraq?

With the troops already there I bet he's looking for any reason to go after them too.

I just hope we don't listen to his roulette wheel of excuses for 9 months like with Iraq.


That's an awesome idea.  I'm going to send him an email.
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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2003, 08:12:17 PM »
Weasel, I don't think the Butcher and his bloody-handed gang of murderers wanted the inspections to be successful either.  Well, they got their wish.  And we gonna throw them a big party! Ka-Boom!
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2003, 08:56:04 PM »
Why complicate things?

Of course American has never trained or aided terrorist or supplied them with WMD. American has never use WMD on a large scale during warfare. The CIA has never been directly involved in assassinations of democratically elected officials of other countires. America never harbours war criminals and or terrorist. American has never invaded or attacked a soviegn nation with no justification.

Why complicate things?

You have a War to fight no time to ponder why Bush won't release the Enron minutes or the fact he used the Enron jet while campaigning or Cheney's open face lies about Haliburton Oil and Afganistan.

Oh say can you see...the enemy within?
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2003, 10:02:11 PM »
Miko...last time I checked imperialism was a path of conquest/expansion. Oh you could argue economicly but come on... we cater to nations that wont allow us to trade w/them on an equal footing much less ram our products down thier throat..

Our Imperialism simply doesnt exist. We had a brief period of semi-colonialism... but that went out the window as well. Oh..we waged war to expand our borders w/the Native American. It was going to be us doing it or some European power.... so dont fool yourself there.

We could of taken Mexico...Cuba..Central America... blablabla. We could of damn well established a much more powerful influnce in the world after ww2...we had the bomb, nobody else did. Guess what... we didnt. We could pushed NK and the Chinese outta of Korea forever and decimated China... we didnt. We could of obliterated Veitnam by waging TOTAL WAR ..we didnt.

I'm sorry but the entire concept of calling us Imperialistic is simply DEAD WRONG.

Hell..we're talking of withdrawing forces from nations... this is hardly empire making.


On a 2nd note.... eventualy the world will be ruled by ONE government... how long was Rome a Republic before Ceaser?
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Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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