Hortlund: Well, you are making a very big assumption that the Iraqis will follow the laws of war miko. They might not skin their prisoners, but you have to ask yourself how that girl broke both legs and one arm... Maybe the peasant who took her prisoner remembered his family being bombed and took his anger on her before an officer could intervene?
Women have very fragile bones compared to men and are naturally clumsy - also relative to men, especially the clerk types, so once they start jumping from moving vehicles with greandes exploding all over the place, you are bound to have a few broken bones.
Any other possible scenario.
We got our prisoners (all but one?) from first Gulf War back safe no worse than bruised and scared by shooting with an unloaded pistol.
Kanth: LOL!!! is this an april fools thing? 
What I meant was that you can use a word in any possibe meaning but when you are replying to what I posted, you should consider the meaning that I intended. I do not claim posession of any piece of this board, but if we mean different theings by the same word, we will get nowhere. I cannot list all 190 countries that we may have to fight every time just because you would not allow me to use the retm "them" to denote... er... all those countries.
If course your comments and thoughts about specifics in Iraq are welcome, but you should not threat my argument as if I mean only Iraq.
It has been publicized that they found the bed used for torture in a hospital All I've heard they found a car battery in some room. I immediately though - how carefull they are providing backup power for some medical equipment in case the power goes down due to some bombing. What, did you hear more details than that?
Did they have electricity in the hospital? That can be used for torture too. 220 volts alternating hurts way more than 12 volt direct. Of course if you need 12 volt direct you do not need tolug a car battery around - just use a power supply from your VCR rewinder. Much lighter.
AFAIK, torture by electric current achieves maximum pain without adverse health effects - if done properly on a healthy person - no heart problems and such. Could it be called humane, compared to, say beating or sleep deprivation? along with several of our dead in a shallow grave... And two in the morgue. Hospital is a place wher people often die without being tortured to death - though I would not put it past
some iraqus. We will have to wait for more detail too..
This is why I chose 'they' to mean the iraqi's (and us to mean America), in order to be able to further discuss.
It's easier to generalize about all enemy or friendly in all wars, but it's inaccurate and a waste of time. I guess if we announce in advance to any particular country which policy we are going to conduct in any given conflict and abide by it, we may not have them using Iraqi experience when we invade them.
Or just bomb them an have a pilot shot down or something. But I am not entirely sure.
Preon1: However, I have to ask if miko2d has addressed the fact that Coalition forces didn't enter that hospital in an attempt to rescue POWs? Well, I am basing this thread only on what I - and millions/billions of other people heard last night and read this morning.
Even if it was an asault on the militarty installation, it is still being publicised as a POW rescue.
Somewhere in this thread we've established that it is just such publicity - much less than the fact of the rescue itself - that jeopardises safety of our future POWs.
Instead of dissuading the enemy from using hospitals as cover, we dissuade them from treating our POWs in the future. All for the sake of short-term publicity campaign.
miko
