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« Reply #135 on: May 02, 2003, 01:24:47 PM »
i blame people not going outside and doing something

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« Reply #136 on: May 02, 2003, 02:09:09 PM »
If the light source is not the sun then what is it?  ONE GIANT bellybutton LIGHT IN THE STUDIO?  i have never seen a light that F^&%ing big before!
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« Reply #137 on: May 02, 2003, 02:35:57 PM »
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I blame the Air Warriors.


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« Reply #138 on: May 02, 2003, 03:04:52 PM »
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I always thought that the conspiracy theory was that only the first landing was faked. This to meet JFKs challenge. The yanks went there afterwards and collected their rocks and took their real pictures.


Man oh man how most like to jump down other's throats for misunderstanding what was written.

Correct me if I'm wrong Hortlund.

1) The quote above is not an admission of belief in a conspiracy theory. He only pointed out of what he understood the "faked moon landing" conspiracy was about is all. He doesn't say in his post that "I believe the moon landing to be faked or a conspiracy."

2) Hortlund in his "Explain these sun reflection pictures to me as they don't appear to be from the sun (from what I understand it appears to not be from the sun) posts."
 
He's only asking for proof that it is the sun in the reflections for those that believe it is.

Reading comprehension as I see it.
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« Reply #139 on: May 02, 2003, 03:05:19 PM »
Sorry for inciting such a riot with my cheese comment...

I just couldn't resist being a bit sarcastic about this post, that's all...  It's downright hysterical! I can't help it, I can't I can't I can't!

Syzygyone, hysterical retort also... WTG! LOL  Got a great laugh when I read it.

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« Reply #140 on: May 02, 2003, 03:10:24 PM »
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Sorry for inciting such a riot with my cheese comment...

I just couldn't resist being a bit sarcastic about this post, that's all...  It's downright hysterical! I can't help it, I can't I can't I can't!

Syzygyone, hysterical retort also... WTG! LOL  Got a great laugh when I read it.


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« Reply #141 on: May 02, 2003, 03:33:52 PM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong Hortlund.

1) The quote above is not an admission of belief in a conspiracy theory. He only pointed out of what he understood the "faked moon landing" conspiracy was about is all. He doesn't say in his post that "I believe the moon landing to be faked or a conspiracy."

2) Hortlund in his "Explain these sun reflection pictures to me as they don't appear to be from the sun (from what I understand it appears to not be from the sun) posts."
 
He's only asking for proof that it is the sun in the reflections for those that believe it is.

Reading comprehension as I see it.


Nope, you are right on both points.

To be perfectly honest I thought I had explained both those points more than once in this thread though, but apparently it didnt get across.  

Its been fun to watch alot of people fall over themselves though to jump down my throat. But to be perfectly honest, this one has all the makings of an all-time classic:
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the simple fact I am an accomplished Pilot/Artist/Musican/Psychologist.. speaks volumes on my ability to think above and beyond your limited scope.


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« Reply #142 on: May 02, 2003, 04:56:01 PM »
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I blame the Air Warriors.


Yeah! It's them Air Warrior'ses! Them Shills is the worstest. :D

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« Reply #143 on: May 02, 2003, 04:59:55 PM »

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« Reply #144 on: May 02, 2003, 05:25:33 PM »

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« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2003, 05:27:46 PM »
Once again, in difference to soburo...
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Explain that lightsource. (and no, it's too big to be the sun)
I'm missing where he'd like it to be explained how it can be the sun.  He outright denies it.

And... once again, read my initial reply to hortlund.  It was simple.  The idea that the first moon landing could be fake, but all the rest real is by far and away the easiest to prove and disprove making the very notion of it silly.  The very presentation of the concept silly.  Its almost as if someone doesn't believe they used the term "I thought".

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« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2003, 05:39:43 PM »
I got interested in this problem of the sun's reflection so I cracked the old physics book and went to the optics section.

It might seem that the sun's reflection should appear like a luminescent quarter glued to the helmet but this is incorrect.

What you see in the reflection is a virtual image appearing to originate somewhere behind the mirror. In the case of the sun and the astronaut, the sun's image will appear behind the visor, at a distance of half the radius of curvature of the visor. Its simple equation I can show if you like.

So, if you get right up in the astronaut's face, the visor will occupy most of your visual field. The virtual image of the sun will still be some distance away and occupy much less of your field. As you move away, the visor "gets smaller"(occupies less visual field) very quickly while the sun's image gets smaller at a slower rate because it was already farther away. The net result is that the sun's image will occupy a larger percentage of the visor as you move farther away.

I tried this out with the convex passenger side mirror on my van. At 1ft away, the sun occupied maybe 1% of the mirror. From 30ft away, it occupied about 50%. Alot of that 50% was probably glare and not actual sun, but thats probably the case with the photo in question. I bet if the photographer moved far enough away the glare would obscure the other guy's whole helmet.

Long story short, the sun reflection is bigger (proportionaly) because the guy is farther away. You would have to find another photo, taken from a similar distance and with similar lens filters to make a real comparison.
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« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2003, 05:43:21 PM »
Hot damn! Regurge is smart! :D

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« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2003, 05:45:13 PM »
Now regurge, you understand that what you post makes sense, and because of this, some here may be unable to understand.

Please, stop with your facts, and put away that mind of yours, you may start to scare a few on here with reality.

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« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2003, 06:15:00 PM »
hey Hortlund you ever see Capiricorn 1, me thinks one time to many ;)