Sry for the abrupt reply, but it was late and I was tierd. Whenever we run this map some folks have an issue with the frame rate hit, I experance around about the same effect as you do Arlo, but I can still fight just fine so it's not a big deal for me personaly, I understand that for some it is a big deal, and unfortunatly we cant realy do anything about it, short of rebuilding the map. The map maker NUTTZ is semiretired from AH and the likely of this happing is well...kinda low.