Predator attack

[Maniac]

My bet is that they are hidden somewhere, and Saddam Hussein knows where. Now I have no idea exactly where they are hidden and how... But if there is ANYONE who knows where they are, it is SH.

Maybe the correct tactic would be to try to capture him alive then?

[Hortlund]

Nah. The important thing here is threat-neutralization.

[Maniac]

Nah. The important thing here is threat-neutralization.

Yeah thats good logic.

[Hortlund]

Yeah, I think so too. Thanks.

[Weavling]

Hmm, according to Staga, if any leader of any country is asassinated, the U.S. was to blame. Think he's been living next door to Weazel too long.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Staga
1957 - Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt

LOL!!

So the americans were behind that one huh? Care to explain the logic behind that?

[Maniac]

Dont forget.

1986 - Olof Palme

[Saintaw]

Patrice Lubumba was not assasinated by the US per se.

he was dragged out of the airplane oh his return to Elisabeth Ville (Kinshassa), put in a Jeep... driven off to a nearby jungle patch, beaten to pulp and then shot in the head by Mobutu's men.

this is not the official version, but from an eye witness I can trust.

[Fishu]

I didn't see John F. Kennedy being mentioned...

[Imp]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Those drones are armed now? Didn't know that.

I wonder when they are going to come here & hire the remote pileits for those...

I think they use Hellfire missiles like the Apache.

[Imp]

Originally posted by Fishu
I didn't see John F. Kennedy being mentioned...

Lee Harvey Oswald had a magic bullet Fishu, everybody knows that

And what about is brother.
Witnesses say they heard 7 or 8 shots being fired.
The presumed assassin was using a revolver?
How did he have the time to recharge?
Was security that crappy?
Or did he get shot by a security guard standing behind him?
A photographer's photos were taken and never given back too.
Maybe they showed something some people didnt want the world to see or maybe they just got lost

Lots of suspicions, not many answers.

Someday we will know, when everyone involved is 6 feet under so they cant be punished.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Staga
Its common practice for U.S to assasinate/eliminate leaders/ex-leaders of the other countries.

Not sure how correct this list is but if even 1/3:rd is right... wtg

1949 - Kim Koo, Korean opposition leader

1950s,1962 - Sukarno, President of Indonesia

1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premier of North Korea

1953 - Mohammed Mossadegh, Prime Minister of Iran

1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader

1955 - Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India

1957 - Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt

1959, 1963, 1969 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia

1960 - Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Kassem, leader of Iraq

1950s-70s - José Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life

1961 - Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, leader of Haiti

1961 - Patrice Lumumba, Prime Minister of the Congo (Zaire)

1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic

1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam

1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, many attempts on his life

1960s - Raúl Castro, high official in government of Cuba

1965 - Francisco Caamaño, Dominican Republic opposition leader

1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader

1970 - Salvador Allende, President of Chile

1970 - Gen. Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile

1970s, 1981 - General Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama

1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence

1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire

1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica

1980-1986 - Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya, several plots and attempts upon his life

1982 - Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of Iran

1983 - Gen. Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan Army commander

1983 - Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua

1984 - The nine comandantes of the Sandinista National Directorate

1985 - Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanese Shiite leader (80 people killed in the attempt)

1991 - Saddam Hussein, leader of Iraq

1998, 2001-2 - Osama bin Laden, leading Islamic militant

1999 - Slobodan Milosevic, President of Yugoslavia

mmm doesn't look like they suceeded very often

[Ripsnort]

Here is your answer Nash.

By David Anthony Denny
Washington File Staff Writer

Washington -- Those who supported the Clinton administration's armed interventions in Bosnia, Haiti and Kosovo have even more reason to support a U.S.-led war with Iraq, according to Brookings scholar Kenneth Pollack.

During an abbreviated digital video conference (DVC) March 14 with three State Department posts in India, Pollack argued that the case for armed intervention in Iraq on humanitarian grounds is as strong or stronger than those instances when President Clinton ordered U.S. military intervention during the 1990s. Pollack, who now is director of research at the Brookings Institution's Saban Center for Middle East Policy, is the author of "The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq." He was previously director of Gulf affairs at the National Security Council during the Clinton administration, and before that was a CIA military analyst for the Persian Gulf. He holds a doctorate in political science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Pollack asserts that Saddam Hussein is one of the worst tyrants of the past 50 years. He notes that the United Nations' Special Rapporteur for Human Rights in Iraq says that Saddam Hussein's regime is comparable to the World War II-era Soviet Union under Stalin and Nazi Germany under Hitler. Saddam Hussein is reputed to have killed more than a million Iraqis -- his own people -- a figure which must be compared with Iraq's population of about 24 million. Pollack also notes that Saddam Hussein is considered to have attempted genocide against both Iraqi Kurds and Marsh Arabs, which constitute crimes against humanity.

In addition to the human rights considerations, of course, Pollack emphasized the strategic rationale for armed intervention -- Saddam Hussein's possession of biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction (WMD), and his ongoing, decades-long quest to develop or acquire nuclear weapons. Pollack considers Saddam Hussein uniquely dangerous among contemporary rulers for his view of nuclear weapons not as a defensive assurance against outside attack, but rather as an offensive enabling factor allowing him to pursue a foreign policy of aggression and conquest.

Pollack emphasized to his Indian audience that having nuclear weapons per se is not the problem. He sees India's possession of nuclear weapons, or Britain's, as non-threatening, because the governments are not expansionist or aggressive. But Saddam Hussein, by contrast, wants nuclear weapons so that Iraq can become a superpower, can control the Persian Gulf's oil and can destroy Israel. And, Pollack says, with nuclear weapons in his arsenal, he believes even the United States would be unable to effectively prevent his accomplishing those goals. Saddam Hussein's brother is famously noted as saying Iraq needs nuclear weapons in order to have a strong hand in re-drawing the map of the Middle East, Pollack said.

A questioner from Calcutta asked why war with Iraq must happen now since containment was working with U.N. inspectors in Iraq. Pollack answered that containment was not working, but failing. For instance, he said, Iraq has increased its smuggling from $300 million a year several years ago to $3 billion ($3,000 million) in 2002, enabling Saddam Hussein to acquire almost everything he needs militarily. Pollack also insisted that containment only seems to be working now because both the Security Council members and Saddam Hussein himself recognize the presence of 250,000 U.S. and coalition forces in the Persian Gulf region ready to force Saddam Hussein's hand if he does not cooperate.

Moreover, Pollack said, for containment to be effective, it must last 10-20-30 years -- the life of the current regime, including not only Saddam Hussein but also his sons, who are likely successors. Finally, the United States is not hearing anything from France or Russia that would lead it to believe either country is serious about containment, Pollack said.
 


 

[Yeager]

As a military leader Hussein is a legitimate military target.

[Saurdaukar]

I read on the internet that they killed Gumby's horse, Pokey, too... bastards.