Author Topic: Tank Killers (Read 1075 times)

Karnak · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2003, 08:15:31 PM »

The Il-2 and Yak-9T do very well, but aproach from a shallow angle against the side or rear, preferably the rear. Do NOT attack the front.

P-38L, Bf110G-2, Mosquito VI, Typhoon, P-47D-30 and N1K2-J are decent as well.

cobia38 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2003, 10:44:14 PM »

P38 is great gv buster,you can load hvy and climb to 4or5k
in no time.And the super turkey choke convergence is great for those 1.0 m3 m8 kills:D

Bullethead · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2003, 11:56:59 PM »

I don't like any of the dedicated tank-buster planes. To me, their guns aren't noticeably more effective than those of other planes. Against light armor, any plane's guns will kill, and tanks can be disabled by pretty much by any gun as well. In terms of killing tanks, the tank-buster guns don't seem to have much chance of scoring a direct kill, although they do seem to have a slightly higher chance of disabling the tank than regular guns. As has been said, disabling tanks often gets you kills when the nme bail out. However, the tank-buster planes are deathtraps in air-to-air, so you're often dead yourself before the nme bails.

Bottom line IMHO: the tank-buster planes sacrifice too much performance and ordnance for too small a gain in guns effectiveness vs. GVs.

Therefore, the best anti-tank planes IMHO are those that carry lots of bombs and/or rockets. It's nice to have some of both (ex: F6F, P38), or lots of bombs (ex: Me110) and still retain decent air-to-air performance once they're gone.

Of course, the best thing for killing tanks is a Tiger.

Rutilant · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2003, 12:11:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Bullethead
I don't like any of the dedicated tank-buster planes. To me, their guns aren't noticeably more effective than those of other planes. Against light armor, any plane's guns will kill, and tanks can be disabled by pretty much by any gun as well. In terms of killing tanks, the tank-buster guns don't seem to have much chance of scoring a direct kill, although they do seem to have a slightly higher chance of disabling the tank than regular guns. As has been said, disabling tanks often gets you kills when the nme bail out. However, the tank-buster planes are deathtraps in air-to-air, so you're often dead yourself before the nme bails.

Bottom line IMHO: the tank-buster planes sacrifice too much performance and ordnance for too small a gain in guns effectiveness vs. GVs.

Therefore, the best anti-tank planes IMHO are those that carry lots of bombs and/or rockets. It's nice to have some of both (ex: F6F, P38), or lots of bombs (ex: Me110) and still retain decent air-to-air performance once they're gone.

Of course, the best thing for killing tanks is a Tiger.

No P47? Oh, and the Tiger is only good at killing nme Gvs if someone else is in it, this applies to everyone

I've had better anti-GV success in the planes designated for anti-GV roles.

You prolly would too, if you just remember that in every case but the Stuka, you only need to disable and mke it un-usable, adn they'll ditch. If not, they're prolly calling for supply M3s

Pop a turret, pork an engine, and move on

SLO · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2003, 08:51:16 AM »

Wimps....

best is Hurri 2C......

even spit 9 does pretty good....2 250's and 1 500...plus a pretty good punch with that ammo(20mm and .50cal)

but me i prefer hurri 2c.....

and never forget...its not WHAT you attack with....but HOW you attack vehicles.....

Zanth · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:22:47 AM »

T1Loady, I am only an average pilot, but I find the IL2 is an excellent anti tank plane. It is my feeling a lot of people just don't have the patience to climb it to a proper altitude in order to take advantage of a tank's weaker top armor.

My gunnery is especially poor, but my dive bombing of GV's is even worse (so poor I most often don't carry to save on weight). I like the rockets, but 90% of GV's I kill are killed with guns only.

In the Il-2 I am 5.5:1 against the against the Panzer, however against the Ostwind I am only 2:1 - those things are scarey efficient at killing you. Attcking GV;s is great gunnery practice, I think it l helps me learn to shoot better.

The 110G2 is also very good with the 30mm option. It's not as armored as the IL2, but the bad guys have a lot harder time hitting a 110.

The primary thing is to work on your accuracy with your weapons and as you do you will get better at everything. It is the #1 all of us work on, it is what separates the average pilots from the really good ones.

T1loady · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2003, 11:18:24 AM »

Hey guys, Thanks a bunch for all the advice. I got on last night and accually did very well in the 110G-2. I found that it is great for taking out ack and will really knock the crap out of a town. There were about 8 or 9 of us flying together over on the west side of the current map, and in about an hour we took 4 bases. Why is it some nights I can get guys to work together and then sometime it always feels like a free for all. I understand guy are worried about getting perkies and lowering there rank, but isnt the overall goal of the game to win the map? I find that if you can get even just a few people to work together you can just roll over bases without killing everything at the base (just the ack's and the vh as a minimum) 2guys that can ge the town down and boom, goon the place. What if anything can I do to get guys to work together? Or should I just concide and enjoy it when it happens. . If anyone wants to email me an anwers feel free if you dont want to post here... Again, just a rather newbee trying to get some advice.. Thanks again

T1oady
t1load@aol.com

jEEZY · « **Reply #22 on:** July 23, 2003, 11:29:54 AM »

Key to tank busting in AH is angle of attack. Essentially the steeper your dive, obviously aim point is the turret, the more success you will have. Hurri IIC will pop a Pnzer's turret very efficiently with steep dive and will not be vunerable to the pintle gun in the dive. At least that has been my experience. Also practice shooting rockets, the more you shoot the better your accuracy--after a couple of well placed rockets most Pnzer's buckle. BTW, the rockets found on LW planes are sticktly Air to Air and will not effect tanks--not sure about soft targets.

Furball · « **Reply #23 on:** July 23, 2003, 11:46:40 AM »

Il2 hands down. Get 8 or 9 kills using cannon alone easily. I learned by watching the best (OverBkil) in action!

I come in slightly above directly to a panzers 9 o clock position (pintle gun cant shoot there) and pop a few cannon rounds into the turret, you take the turret out and any sensible person will ditch, giving you the kill.

Rutilant · « **Reply #24 on:** July 23, 2003, 01:56:08 PM »

Furball, i've had a few that keep on cahrging like it never happened

I've also had a few that refuse to die and try to joust with me, always turning straight for me

Then i break out the RS182s

Shiva · « **Reply #25 on:** July 23, 2003, 04:09:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
Il2 hands down. Get 8 or 9 kills using cannon alone easily. I learned by watching the best (OverBkil) in action!

I come in slightly above directly to a panzers 9 o clock position (pintle gun cant shoot there) and pop a few cannon rounds into the turret, you take the turret out and any sensible person will ditch, giving you the kill.

That only works if you're coming in on the 9 o'clock position relative to the turret, Furball; you come in from 9 o'clock relative to the tank, and the tank driver's got his turret turned to his 9 o'clock or 3 o'clock position, then you're nicely in his arc of fire for the pintle gun.

When I'm in a tank and I see someone in an aircraft start rolling in on me, unless I'm already engaged with other GVs I'll spin my turret to make sure I've got arc-of-fire on the aircraft with my pintle gun. It may not make a difference, but there's always the Golden BB...

MrLars · « **Reply #26 on:** July 23, 2003, 04:54:18 PM »

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Originally posted by SLO

and never forget...its not WHAT you attack with....but HOW you attack vehicles.....

So true.

Any plane w/o bombs or rocks will loose a fight with a tank if the tank driver knows how to defend against a guns only air attack when the pilot doesn't attack from a high enough angle.

bfreek · « **Reply #27 on:** July 23, 2003, 08:28:21 PM »

depends on the tanker. some guys die with one rocket and others will never die unless you damage them and they finally get bored and bail. they're called cheaters.

Furball · « **Reply #28 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:04:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Shiva
That only works if you're coming in on the 9 o'clock position relative to the turret, Furball; you come in from 9 o'clock relative to the tank, and the tank driver's got his turret turned to his 9 o'clock or 3 o'clock position, then you're nicely in his arc of fire for the pintle gun.

obviously shiva. The pintle gun is connected to the turret and not the chassis. Sorry, i thought people would be smart enough to realise. Maybe i should have made things more clear by using underlining.

Rutilant · « **Reply #29 on:** July 23, 2003, 09:19:10 PM »

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