Author Topic: Tiger Stats for the CT for July 1st to Pres. (Read 863 times)

Kweassa · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2003, 09:56:24 PM »

brady, he's got a point.

It is killed, just like any other vehicle, yeah... but unlike the others - it requires a precision drop which the planes have to duly prepare for. In most cases, people just want to kill it quickly and do it the wrong way.. but in other cases, sometimes they just don't have that much time. GVs spawn instantly, while planes, especially if they are trying to kill Tigers, need sufficient time.

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I'm wondering if future terrains - new or revised - are looking to implement some ideas to adequately simulate ground combat conditions into something more reasonable.

For instance, a VH wouldn't spawn directly towards an enemy base, but instead, maybe a string of v-bases can be placed between the two hostile fields, like beads in a necklace. So, the long drives are avoided, but still it would take sequential capture of V-spawn points to finally approach a crucial field/target.

Ofcourse, the magical terrain wizards

can think of the more various ways to cleverly disguise the Vbases.. maybe something like a local string of towns acting as Vbases.. maybe couple of buildings, or barricaded points.. etc etc

brady · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2003, 10:14:14 PM »

Well some people are realy put out by GV's this is true, they have to actualy do more than point their guns at them and fire to kill them ( realy only the Tiger is like this prety nuch everything else can be killed by most guns), personaly I think the whole Air to ground interface in AH is extreamly Gammy, planes were not anywhear near as effective aganst GV's as they are in AH in real life. I gues my come back is this, if they dont want to have to engage the GV's then they can fly from another field, it's all part of the game, and the Tiger is realy prety rare in the CT.

Karnak · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2003, 10:15:03 PM »

brady,

Just give in and give them the following srtup:

Axis:

A6M2
A6M5b
B5N2
C-47A
D3A1
Ki-61-I-KAIc
Ki-67

M-3
M-8
M-16
PT-Boat

Allies:

B-26B
C-47A
FM2
F4U-1
F4U-1D
F4U-1C
F4U-4
F6F-5
P-38L
P-47D-25
P-47D-30
P-51D
SBD-5
Seafire Mk IIc
TBM-3

LVT-2
LVT-4(A)
M-3
M-8
M-16
Panzer IV H
PT Boat
Ostwind

Let them have their playground for at least a week. They'll get a kick out of it, I'm sure.

brady · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2003, 10:18:39 PM »

lol, I would never run that, we ran stuff like that a long time ago and those set up's sucked bad, had low attendance and got the Japanese embasy so pissed at HTC that they threatend to invade Texas.

Karnak · « **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2003, 10:23:34 PM »

I know that.

They need another demonstration though.

Given many of the things I've read there is a group of CT players that seems to see that as the model of balance.

Arlo · « **Reply #20 on:** July 27, 2003, 10:27:19 PM »

Dunno `bout that. There's a few but most seem to be sayin', "See? Ya'll had yer panties in a wad over speedcharts and such fer nuthin'."

Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** July 27, 2003, 10:46:56 PM »

Arlo,

That is why they are whining about the presence of the N1K2-J?

You'll note I left it out of my suggested setup.

Arlo · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:27:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Arlo,

That is why they are whining about the presence of the N1K2-J?

You'll note I left it out of my suggested setup.

They who?

I've seen some askin' for other hogs to get added ... some ... not many. I've seen some say ... look at these k/d stats. What was everyone so worried about? And then there's this thread talking about the Tiger.

Ok ... again ....

They who?

CurtissP-6EHawk · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:54:13 AM »

hehehe I wasnt exactly whinning...just posted the stats. The stats dont lie. They can be misleading at times but its obvious in the furball fighting, which is what the CT is all about, the N1K2J is a bit "unballanced" and the GV war, the Tiger is a bit "unballanced". Brady keeps claiming the the Tiger is added to even up the "allied Jabo" but how can the allies jabo if they are spending all thier time bombing Tigers on thier own fields? What about the allied GVs?????????

All the allies have is the Panzer and the stats say the Panzer will not stand up to the Tiger. That is unballanced.

Oh yeah, what about the current set-up, was the IJA tanks as good as the Panzer tanks? I really dont know, just wanted to know!

Karnak · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2003, 01:11:18 AM »

Does the current setup have F4Us? If so, the N1K2 should not be a problem. If not, then the F4Us need to be added ASAP.

As far as the tanks go. I agree that the Japanese should not get the Panzer. Their tanks were about like the A-8 (tougher, but slower). However, the tanks they were up against were mostly light American tanks that wouldn't sink in the tropical mush. Now, the American light tanks were much better than the Japanese tanks, but not nearly as much better as the Panzer is to the M-8.

Currently there is not an adequate solution to the Pacific tank issue.

brady · « **Reply #25 on:** July 28, 2003, 02:43:28 AM »

Shermans were used on Okinawa, they suffered aprox. 100% atration, most loses were do to Japanese 47mm AT guns which were dug in heavely all over Okinawa, we decided to go with the Panzer on both sides since it would play well and also represent the dug in defenses of Okinawa to a degree.

F4U's are enabled as are FM2's which are available everywhear.

CurtissP-6EHawk · « **Reply #26 on:** July 28, 2003, 03:06:07 AM »

You dont hear much about tanks in the Island wars, I guess that is way!!

Oh and Karnak, The F4Us are available but you know how the CT crowd loves to furball. The F4U is to slow, as well as the P-47 and do not turnfight. The frefered ride in the CT is for the kill then be killed furballing. The F6F and the FM2.