Author Topic: Heil Intolerance (Read 11753 times)

Mini D · « **Reply #435 on:** August 08, 2003, 02:25:22 PM »

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What I'm saying is that hormones, or something that the medical/scientific community does not understand yet, causes each one of us to be attracted to either the same sex, or the opposite sex. Nobody gets to choose.

That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Did you actually say "nobody get's to choose"? Does this mean the Romans were more likely to have homosexual traights? Or Greeks? I mean, at some point it was a part of their culture. Maybe something changes when you get locked up in prison and are surrounded by nothing but men?

Nah. Its not about choice at all. Its all about genetics.

MiniD

Sandman · « **Reply #436 on:** August 08, 2003, 02:29:15 PM »

Agreed... if the guy has a choice and he has the option of:

A. Cindy Crawford
B. The guy with the hairy ass

He's not going to choose B no matter who he hangs around with.

Mini D · « **Reply #437 on:** August 08, 2003, 02:30:01 PM »

well... how hairy is the ass?

Wanker · « **Reply #438 on:** August 08, 2003, 02:30:20 PM »

What I'm saying is that I didn't "choose" to like girls. It just happened. And I'm arguing that the same thing happens to a gay female. When puberty hits, she starts liking girls instead of boys.

Mini-D, when did you choose to start liking girls, and why?

Mini D · « **Reply #439 on:** August 08, 2003, 02:46:57 PM »

I think what you're experience is the only type possible and there are no other ways. I'm sure there has never been a woman that was raped as a child and developed a fear or loathing for men as a result. They must all just be naturally atracted to each other. That's it. Afterall... it was natural for you.

Its a fundamentally flawed argument and I don't believe you'd find a single scientist or sociologist that would agree with the "nobody has a choice" philosophy.

MiniD

Wanker · « **Reply #440 on:** August 08, 2003, 03:26:36 PM »

Mini, you keep dancing around my question.

When did you choose to like girls instead of boys. And why?

mietla · « **Reply #441 on:** August 08, 2003, 03:29:20 PM »

450... we are getting there, A couple more personal attacks, an insult or two perhaps...

SOB · « **Reply #442 on:** August 08, 2003, 03:36:04 PM »

Mietla smells like a French outhouse!

SOB

Wanker · « **Reply #443 on:** August 08, 2003, 03:36:56 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla
450... we are getting there, A couple more personal attacks, an insult or two perhaps...

Like this?

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Just like the lefties can vote thir marxist concience...

Wonder who could've came up with that beauty?

Mini D · « **Reply #444 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:04:37 PM »

I'm not dancing around your question banana. I simply realise that the reason I am straight may or may not have anything to do with the reason why someone else is gay... or even anything to do with the reason why someone else is straight.

It must be a wonderfull world for you banana... one where everything happens exactly the same for everyone around you. You really should return to earth some day where that just isn't the case.

MiniD

mietla · « **Reply #445 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:15:10 PM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Mietla smells like a French outhouse!

SOB

Yeah baby, now we are talking.

mietla · « **Reply #446 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:18:15 PM »

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Originally posted by banana

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Just like the lefties can vote thir marxist concience...

Like this?

Wonder who could've came up with that beauty? [/B]

You took this as a personal attack???? LOL

That's just a fact. Everybody can vote however they want. You do not have to justify your vote.

Mini D · « **Reply #447 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:20:46 PM »

Marxists hate being called lefties mietla.

MiniD

Rude · « **Reply #448 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:20:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Rude, capt. apathy, can you please explain this.

Sheep study suggests sexual orientation may be genetic

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A study showing a correlation between structural brain differences and sexual preferences in sheep supports an earlier human study that suggested orientation may be genetic.

The study found that a cluster of cells in the preoptic hypothalamus, a region of the brain known to be involved in sexual behavior and partner preference, was larger in male-oriented rams than in female-oriented rams or in ewes.

The research was led by Charles Roselli, a professor at Oregon Health & Science University, with help from scientists at Oregon State University and the U.S. Sheep Experiment Station in Dubois, Idaho.

"It indicates that there may be a biological (reason) for this sexual preference," Roselli said Monday from Orlando, where he was presenting the study during the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience. "This confirms the human studies."

In a human study in 1991, scientists found that a specific cluster of cells in the anterior hypothalamus, a part of the brain, was always larger for heterosexual males than for homosexual men or women. While scientists were careful to label the size difference a correlation rather than the cause of heterosexuality, they said it could indicate that sexual preference was genetic rather than a choice.

In the sheep study, 28 sheep were studied: nine rams that preferred to mate with males, eight rams that preferred to mate with females, and eleven ewes.

Roselli said it was important to do animal studies to confirm the results of the human studies because the research could be more controlled.

"Human studies are post mortem studies ... and you can never be sure whether the disease is what caused the differences. You're also depending on self reporting for sexual preferences," Roselli said. "In an animal study, you can control the behavioral experience the animal has, the social environment they're brought up in and their hormonal exposure as well."

The results of the study were welcomed by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

"While it should not make a difference whether or not one's sexuality is biologically based, the radical right far too often uses the argument of 'sexuality is a choice that can be changed' to justify their calculated discrimination against the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community," said Lorri Jean, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. "Any research suggesting that sexuality is not a choice will help to help defeat that mentality."

It's a study which suggest that genetics MIGHT play a part in sexuality among sheep.

I tend to stand with the thought that humans have a choice whether to act on impulses....unlike animals who do not think at all comparitably.

Believe what ya want...it's your life.

mietla · « **Reply #449 on:** August 08, 2003, 04:21:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Marxists hate being called lefties mietla.

MiniD

Sorry Marxists. I apologize for giving you a bad name by comparing you to the lefties here.

added the italics