Request Comparison between NVidia and Radeon...

[2Hawks]

Greetings.

I have long been a Fan of Nvidia chipsets, but cannot deny the Price advantages of Radeon. The only thing of which I am un-clear is which Radeon compares to which Nvidia chipsest?

Is the Radeo 7500 anything like the GF2 Chipset? How does the Radeon 9100 or 9200 compare to as far as performance in AH?

Can Anybody point out some links / comparisons?

[Estes]

All the 9100 is is the 7500, all they did was change the name. So I imagine, it wouldn't be that great.

[Alpo]

I happened to win a Radeon 9000 Pro at the 2003 AH Con and I'm satisfied with it.  I've seen frame rates in the 70s with a low of around 29 over a really chopped up base with lots of smoke, tracers, GVs, and vulchers.

Most of the time it hovers in the high 40s which is steady enough for me.

[2Hawks]

Thanks for the input...

What Color Depth and Rez were you running in the game? Was FSAA turned on?

[Blank]

some more info: all at 32bit colour.

I run a Hercules radeon 9700 pro 128mb at 1600x1200  with screen refresh of 75htz have FPS locked to V-sync and frame rate stable at all times at 75.

using FSAA and antriscopic filtering makes text unreadable so I just leave it on 'application preference) as it looks nice anyway at 1600x1200

with v-sync off FPS gets stupid at over 120 and you notice frame tearing. (cos my monitor cant handle 120htz at 1600x1200)

used to have a geforse 2 gts 64mb card at 1280x1024 got no lower than 24 FPS.

so as you can see 9700 is basically overkill for AH as it is now, and AH2 shouldn't trouble it either.

thats as much as I know, hope its some kind of help

[2Hawks]

Thakn you very much for the input. Vsynch wasn't something I had thought about.

Just out of curiousity... What MoBo and CPU are you running?

[Eagler]

ati 9800 pro

ah 1280x1024 32bit - a steady 90 fps - vsync on (monitor refresh limit) 4xAA - AF off causes text to blur

desktop (2d apps) looks much better than my ti4400 geforce4 card did at this resolution

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2hawks

with my old Geforce 2 I had:

Mobo = Asus A7V , 1.1ghz athlon ,512mb pc133 ram

with my Radeon I have:  

Mobo = Asus A7n8x deluxe ,  XP2400, 512mb pc3200

I ran my radeon on the old system for  a while frame rates were still very good (max  90fps) except for some reason my system  would CTD alot while playing games, drove me mental for a bit until I had enough money to complete my upgrade and now its as stable as a stable thing with a degree from the university of stable.

[Siaf__csf]

Nvidia products are clearly inferior because the R/F filtering on them produces blurry 2D desktops.

All the radeon's I've tried have been clearly (pun intended) sharper with normal desktop use. I've owned Gef256, gef2MX and Gf3ti200 (which had leadtek special r/f but still didn't match the radeon..)

I've witnessed a couple MX4's and 4Ti4200 at work and only the ti4200 got my approval in image quality. Might have been leadtek.

The bottom point is, most budget level nvidia products and even some of the high-end ones suffer greatly from horrid 2d.

[2Hawks]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Nvidia products are clearly inferior because the R/F filtering on them produces blurry 2D desktops.

All the radeon's I've tried have been clearly (pun intended) sharper with normal desktop use. I've owned Gef256, gef2MX and Gf3ti200 (which had leadtek special r/f but still didn't match the radeon..)

I've witnessed a couple MX4's and 4Ti4200 at work and only the ti4200 got my approval in image quality. Might have been leadtek.

The bottom point is, most budget level nvidia products and even some of the high-end ones suffer greatly from horrid 2d.

Would that 2D response vary with the brightness adjustment, or the brightness drive on the Monitor?  

( The Brightnes Drive (Not correct term?) is an Adjustment on the back of the flyback transformer thats actually inside the monitor case. )