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Offline Holder3

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« on: September 11, 2003, 08:29:49 PM »
Hi all,
 
My next SquadOp for Friday night (early October) will be a little different. I call it Bomber Wars. It will feature ... bombers. No surprise there. The idea is to represent bomber missions from the Germans at El Alamein, the British with nighttime Lancaster raids into Germany and American daylight raids into Germany.
 
The first frame is in the North African desert. The LW is ordered to reduce the British forward bases and bomb Cairo into submission. Armed with an armada of Ju-88s and Bf-109Fs and MC-202s they will be arrayed against an equally motley crew of British Hurricane IIs, some Spitfire Vs and South African P-40Es.
 
Frame II will feature at least one, maybe two, bomber streams of Lancasters protected by night-fighter Mosquitos arrayed against the pride of the German nachtjagers: FW-190A5s, Bf-110s, Bf-109Gs.
 
Frame III will pit American B-17s and P-51Ds (maybe P-47-D30s) against the might of the late-war LW: Fw-190Ds, some Me-262s, Bf-109G10s, and maybe a few Me-163s.

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2003, 03:52:39 PM »
Sounds like a lot of fun to me. I love the Bomber Raid scenarios, especially now that we have the 3 plane formations - it actually begins to look almost historical when you have a gaggle of 30 big ugly fellas flying together in formation. I'll look forward to honing my calibration skills...

Just wondering though, how will the night scenario work? Short Icon range? Instant radar updates? Also, will the German Nacht Jagers be heavy on the 110s? Will the 190s and 109s be "radar blind" as the actual wilde sau aircraft were? Otherwise there are going to be a lot of dead Mossies about.

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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2003, 06:50:28 PM »
Well, I don't think we can have one group of aircraft radar blind, and the others with radar. It doesn't work that way in AH. I was going to use short icons and quickly updated dot radar. The 110s will represent a lot of the German night fighters, with some 190s and 109s. I haven't worked out the proportions yet.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2003, 08:22:16 AM »
Sounds like fun Holder.. Hope to see D-30's in that final frame for us Jug people :)
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2003, 10:27:48 AM »
Looking forward to it and especially the use of the of the P51's.


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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2003, 11:32:26 AM »
This sounds like a great idea. The only potential fly in the ointment I see is that someone's going to have to fly the buffs.  When the orders come out, the squads assigned to bomber duty need to actually show up.

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2003, 01:39:29 PM »
Sounds fun, but the defensive armament of the lancasters and Ju88's is not equivalent to an attacking fighter.  If both sides are equal in number, the side with the bombers is going to have a hard time.  The Ju88's stand a decent chance if the # of Spit V's are limited, but even if there equal numbers of Spits and Hurricanes and P40's, it would be a challenge for the bombers to penetrate.  Only the last scenario with B-17's will be a fair fight with equal numbers on both sides.  What I am trying to say is that I feel that the bomber sides should have a slight #'s advantage in the first two frames but I don't know how to accomplish this.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2003, 05:25:23 PM »
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The only potential fly in the ointment I see is that someone's going to have to fly the buffs. When the orders come out, the squads assigned to bomber duty need to actually show up.
If they don't show up they get dropped from Squad Operations.

All three frames at night Holder??
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2003, 08:30:02 AM »
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If they don't show up they get dropped from Squad Operations.
 


I would reiterate that before the event.

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 03:19:38 PM »
Yes Squad Ops are not just about showing up to fly P51s and the rest of the time skipping. Thats why we have rules about that. Somebody has to fly the bombers sometimes. Otherwise we may as well just go to the CT and forget about it.

Agree on the ratios, the bombers will need a #s advantage.

Btw if you have never done a "good" night event, you are missing out.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2003, 03:43:30 PM »
Well, this needs to be addressed now before signing up..I know there are squads in S. Ops. that like flying Buff's. There are other squads the fly solely fighters.

Myself, personally do not fly bombers for the idotic calibration crap..I have spent months..with help trying to use the system and not able to get it to work.  I like flying the B-17, but the fun has been taken out of it for me.

I will say this if the 56th has to fly bombers we will support the Squad Ops. And not show up.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2003, 03:51:50 PM »
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Originally posted by Jim
Looking forward to it and especially the use of the of the P51's.


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That did not mean we would only fly P51's as a matter of fact we do a lot of bombing B17's B26's A20 and some I do not even know the names of. I meant could you see a formation of B17's and a formation of P51 fighter support it would be awesome. They may not be used in that manner but it would be nice.

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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2003, 04:10:50 PM »
No offense 68Falcon, I knew what you meant. :)
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2003, 04:38:42 PM »
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I will say this if the 56th has to fly bombers we will support the Squad Ops. And not show up.
And that supports the SquadOps how?
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2003, 04:39:52 PM »
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The 68th Lightning Lancers will fly and fight what ever is necessary and will show up !
That's exactly right attitude!  :)
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