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Offline Mathman

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2003, 10:39:06 AM »
e comes from evaluating the expression (1 + 1/n)^n

As n gets larger and larger, it starts to get closer and closer to the value of e (which truly can't be reached exactly, since e is an irrational number).

Simple table showing what I am talking about:

       n                                  (1 + 1/n)^n

     100                                     2.70481

     1000                                   2.71692

    100000                                2.71827

    1000000                              2.71828

and so on...

e is used quite a bit in calculus and comes up in mathematical theory and in applications (pretty much anything that uses calculus as a base, i.e. engineering and physics).

As far as the half the distance thing mentioned by Grim:

Yes, in theory, you won't reach the object.  But I haven't ever met a mathematician that says you would never actually reach it.  The half the distance theory is only truly applicable when both the thing moving and the destination occupy no space.  Basically, it means the two things are points.

But, as you and everyone else are aware, this is not the case in the real world.  It is an interesting topic of discussion in math classes, but that is about it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2003, 10:39:47 AM »
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Now go get a gun and shoot your reading comprehension teacher.
LOL - probably already dead. Sorry, but I didn't know about these "natural logs" that you speak of...

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2003, 12:20:34 PM »
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(1 + 1/n)^n



Thank you Mathman, exactly what I was looking for.

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2003, 12:28:54 PM »
ARRRGGGGHHH my ****ing eyes!!!!! AAHHHHHHHH


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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2003, 12:31:04 PM »
LOL...

make the bad symbols go away!!

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2003, 12:51:45 PM »
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Thank you Mathman, exactly what I was looking for.


e was discovered by Euler, one of the greatest mathematicians in history.

e is  derived from computing and interest on a loan. Typically you pay say 5% interest a year, but you can compute it monthly, weelky, daily etc. For example for a monthly computation, you are paying 5%/12 interest each month. that's where (1 + 1/n)^n comes from.

e comes from calculating an interest continually, the interest calculation interval goes to a zero.

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2003, 01:23:33 PM »
I made 2.71 natural logs this morning.

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2003, 02:07:03 PM »
:D

how did you measure it?

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2003, 02:12:51 PM »
Just count the splashes.

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2003, 02:13:53 PM »
better than a spray, I suppose.......

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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2003, 02:21:13 PM »
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Just count the splashes.


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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2003, 02:24:20 PM »
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e was discovered by Euler, one of the greatest mathematicians in history. .


thought e was discovered by Bay :)
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2003, 03:08:28 PM »
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LOL...

make the bad symbols go away!!







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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2003, 04:12:48 PM »
Mathman... you rock.

Can you give me some insight on the following?

y = xe^x

and solve for x?  Looks doable at first, at least it did to me. :)

I busted my head on that one for a long time before finding a solution on the internet, and the solution involved a "function" that I had never seen before. I totally forget what it was, too. :)

Anyway, I'm curious if there's some significance to the above equation or its solution...

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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2003, 04:36:51 PM »
If you haven't heard Tom Lehrer's 'New Math' song, it's quite entertaining.   He dissects the concept of new math quite viciously.


Examples:
"...In the new approach, the important thing is to understand what you're doing, not to get the right answer"

"The book I got this problem out of wants you to do it in base 8, but don't panic.  Base 8 is just like base 10 really.... if you're missing two fingers."

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/t/tom-lehrer/138395.html
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