Author Topic: CT group forming...not a squadron (Read 2536 times)

Reschke · « **on:** September 24, 2003, 10:39:58 PM »

If you are interested some of us are getting together and forming a CT group called PACDEVGRU. Thats short for Pacific Development Group (Combat Theater) and no we all don't live on the west coast of the US either.

The overall goal of this group is the advancement of CT setups and possible scenarios coming out of it. Right now we are in the infancy of this group and have some ideas being bounced around about where we would like to start.

To me the idea of the PACDEVGRU not only encompasses IJ vs. USN/USMC air units but also USAAF/FAA/RAAF/RNZAF forces and not only just the islands of the Pacific. One thing I would like to do as part of this is to incorporate the whole Pacific Rim sort of area. Where it might one day bring an early 1940 setup with AVG vs. IJAAF aircraft and a possible late 1945/early 1946 'what if" IJNAF vs. USAAF/USN/USMC along the western United States coastline.

If you are interested in becoming a part of this and would like to advance the CT within and start working on new Pacific setups please contact either myself of Sakai (board name).

Jester · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2003, 05:45:31 AM »

I also would like to see more PTO set-up's in the CT.

Be glad to help out all I can. I have a pretty good library on the subject (especially Navy & Marine air) and can help out doing research as well with the set-up's in the CT.

Just let me know what I can do to help.

~~Guys for getting this organized and working to do something to better the CT for all rather than just sit around and whineing about it.~~

Batz · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2003, 06:03:30 AM »

See if skuzzy might set you up a forum as well.

GL all.

Jester · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2003, 06:24:41 AM »

I can ask Skuzzy for the forum if you like.

scJazz · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2003, 07:53:21 AM »

I would be happy to join such a group. Please count me in.

keyapaha · « **Reply #5 on:** September 25, 2003, 09:38:12 AM »

sounds dangerous count me in

How about this for a what if

Lets say that the Japanese have invaded and captured the Hawaiian Is. post 12-7-41 they have 4 cv groups the USN has 2 cv groups. make a map of the s calif area include Los Angels,and San Diego areas.The Japanese fleets can spawn 3 sectors away from calif coast the USN 2 sectors away from the Hawaiian Is.Have several very close air/gv fields in the LA and SD areas and a few further out.

The plane set for US would be P40b and f4f4 wildcats and TBM,LVT,M16,M3 no mannable ack but lots of AI ack

The plane set for the Japanese A6M2,D3Y,B5N,LVT,M16,M3,also no mannable ack but alot of AI ack

Ship guns would be mannable

The only problem would be that the cities of LA and SD would have to very large(lots of bldgs and strat targets)could be a hit on some ppls comps.

anyway this is a rough draft maybe you guys can add to it.

I think it would cool to be furballing over hollywood .

Reschke · « **Reply #6 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:04:41 AM »

OK Here is who we have so far.

1Duke1
scJazz
Jester
Sakai
Arlo
Reschke
keyapaha
Brady (possibly)
Batz (possibly)
Najdorf (possibly)

The first thought that has been put forward to me by Sakai was an AVG vs. IJAAF setup. Its almost doable now but we need a map and locations for the various bases. Also wouldn't hurt to have a few early war IJAAF aircraft like the A5M and Ki-27.

keyapaha · « **Reply #7 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:21:56 AM »

I would say a D3A and a KI27 are close resemblence but upon further review there not as close as I thought,but closer to the a5m

D3A top speed 242
Ki27 top speed 292
A5m top speed 273

D3A arm 2x7.7 ff 1x7.7 rf
KI27 arm 2x7.7 ff
A5m arm 2x7.7 ff

D3A range 1119 mi
Ki27 range 388 mi
A5m range 768 mi

both the a5m and D3a have fixed landing gear not sure about the Ki27.

Yes the Ki27,43,44,45,84,100,and 102 would be great additions

along with many others on bot sides

Dux · « **Reply #8 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:29:55 AM »

Lol, Reschke... would that make you CINCPACDEVGRU?

You must be miltary, huh?

I'd be interested in being part of this group. I will be the CM Terrain Team leader when AH2 comes out, I may be of some help setting something like this up.

Batz · « **Reply #9 on:** September 25, 2003, 11:39:47 AM »

Wow with Dux onboard you will have a heck of a team. Especially with his indepth knowledge of the TE.

I will certainly help where I can. Do you have an outline of what it is you want to do?

S!

MajorDay · « **Reply #10 on:** September 25, 2003, 12:19:54 PM »

I'll be happy to joined whatever you guys need help about PTO and any aircraft in PTO. Email me at aaust35van@aol.com

!

Ensign Rafe35

Reschke · « **Reply #11 on:** September 25, 2003, 02:26:32 PM »

Here is what we have on the table so far:

Proposed CT setup by Keyapaha for an West Coast US attack by IJN forces in what appears to be the late 1941 time frame.

Proposed CT setup for AVG vs IJAAF in China during 1940-1941 time frame.

Personally I like both ideas and think they would do well. Both need a fair amount of research done and will also need maps.

Lastly here is the list of people that have said they would help out and be a part of the PACDEVGRU. No Dux not military at all I just thought the accronym summed up the intentions that Sakai and I started off with nicely. Sometimes it gets old flying over the same Guadalcanal and Okinawa area and it might be nice to have a different setup than something that was historically based...ie Keyapaha's thought above.

1Duke1
scJazz
Jester
Sakai
Arlo
Reschke
keyapaha
Brady (possibly)
Batz
Najdorf
Dux
Rafe35

keyapaha · « **Reply #12 on:** September 25, 2003, 04:20:59 PM »

I got some more ideas but the plane sets are not right yet

1) Alutian Is Campgine 42-43with wicked surface/aloft winds low clouds and lots of snow but we have no B24 early p38 float planes for both sides.

2) Invasion of Hawaii 41-42 this we could probally do if we had a map

3) Fight for the Zone USN vs IJN at the Pamama Canal Zone need a map this could be used for any time period just put in 4 land bases that are nutral once taken u get land base planes for the time period u set up.

the two main problems are lack of plane set and lack of maps at least we can do somthing about the later one.

ergRTC · « **Reply #13 on:** September 25, 2003, 04:32:16 PM »

count me in.

Löwe · « **Reply #14 on:** September 25, 2003, 05:45:48 PM »

Keyapaha!!

Yes the KI-27 was fixed landing as well. You could also sub the A6M2 for a Ki-43 if there was just a way to get rid of the cannons on an A6M.
The only way I can think off would be the IJ guys would have to fire off the cannon rounds prior to take off. However like everything else on the honor system theres always a joker who won't go along.