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Offline Rude

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« on: September 29, 2003, 11:15:33 PM »
That we could remove Sadams regime, restore peace to the whole of Iraq, establish a constitution, conduct free elections by the Iraqi people, restore the infrastructure, rebuild the economy, riemburse ourselves thru oil revenues and exit the country, all in 4-6 months?

For me personally, I kinda took Bush at what he said as well as common sense telling me that this would be a long and tough road....some of you seem to believe it was to be painless and without sacrifice....imagine that.
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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2003, 11:27:56 PM »
I lost the office pool... I had 23 days, 16 1/2 hours. :(
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2003, 11:46:47 PM »
american troops have been in germany 55yrs, japan 55yrs , korea 50 yrs, confederate states of america for about 140 yrs.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2003, 11:51:16 PM »
I believe it's spelled HERE.  Did ya believe we would find those WMD as well?


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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2003, 11:58:26 PM »
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american troops have been in germany 55yrs, japan 55yrs , korea 50 yrs, confederate states of america for about 140 yrs.



Your point?
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2003, 12:07:55 AM »
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Your point?


oh! oh! I know! I know!

4 to 6 months is an incredibly short time! a virtual eyeblink!

Did I get it right John9001? Did I?
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2003, 12:11:13 AM »
the point is that no we aren't going to get out of iraq cheap or soon.  just one more reason why we shouldn't have gone at all. I got 171 other reasons too.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2003, 12:12:59 AM »
Comparisons with Germany, Japan, or South Korea are no more relevant than comparisons with Vietnam.


...but that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2003, 03:27:18 AM »
why are we there at all again?

ohh yea wmd.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2003, 03:31:34 AM »
WMD? Just what is WMD? We were there to free the opressed Iraqi puppies damn you!

At the end of the day the re-building of Iraq was secondary to the disarmament and destruction of Iraq's alledged WMD. No-one realistically expects the rebuilding to be done overnight - but let's not lose sight of the primary goal of the intervention; security from WMD proliferation.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2003, 09:31:48 AM »
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I believe it's spelled HERE.  Did ya believe we would find those WMD as well?




You're right...my point is invalid....correction made...I'm waiting for your answer.

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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2003, 09:35:04 AM »
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the point is that no we aren't going to get out of iraq cheap or soon.  just one more reason why we shouldn't have gone at all. I got 171 other reasons too.


Well if it's so obvious, then why all of the suprise by so many?

Politics ya think?
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2003, 09:58:19 AM »
No one believed it Rude. At least no one that gave it more than 5 minutes of thought. Those clamoring "quagmire" do so only to discredit Bush to further their political agenda.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2003, 10:08:24 AM »
I never believed it for a minute.

According to the architects of this war:

"Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of  Saddam Hussein."

They have no intention of creating a democracy, then leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.  There is too much at stake.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2003, 11:13:49 AM »
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Well if it's so obvious, then why all of the suprise by so many?

Politics ya think?


no suprise at all.

you see about a year ago we started screaming-"don't do it, it's a mistake, there's no conection to 9/11, focus on the war on terror, we have no time/money for this diversion"

now that we have had the war the above statement is pointless, it's just too late.  so now we scream-"you dumba**,  we told you not to do this,  we're all **cked now, and here's why"

more of a "I told you so, now what are you gonna do to fix it, and how much is that gonna cost me on top of this"

than any sort of suprise. no those of us who where saying not to do it aren't really suprised at all by this outcome,  maybe some people who where nieve enough to think this was a good idea where fooled.
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