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Offline RAM

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« on: January 23, 2001, 04:41:00 AM »
Nath, instead of following our little debate in the Aircraft&Vehicles thread about the better 190, I chose to bring it here.

First of all I wont fall down to a flamefest. This is a simple answer to your demand to duel.

I wont take it. Mind you, I dont care if I win or if I lose. you know why?

First of all because if you win you'll prove one thing that I already know. That you are a better stick than I am.

Second of all because if you lose, first you will call me cheater for something, or you'll say that you didnt have the cockpit views well placed (hehe that souds familiar to you, huh?   ), or something like that.

And you would demand for another and another duel until you win. To prove something that, as I stated, I have already for sure : that you are better stick.

and Third and the most important, because the duel wont have nothing to do with what I argued in the other thread.

 I simply say what is true: you WONT in YOUR LIFE, help a m8 with problems, because that action can risk your K/D, perk points collect, ego, or whatever. It's simply too much for you to clear someone's six if you aren't going to get a kill, or you are likely to die by doing so.

And while I can agree or not if you do that with a skilless pillot that lets himself to be banged by 7 cons because he doenst know when to disengage, you do it even with the people who has just helped you.

I have, both as RAM, and as under my current handle, dived to save ur prettythang quite many times. I can recall only one time you did it. We were 2-1 on that con.

 Once I cleared your six twice in a row,diving from a safe altitude to do it and while you were fleeing, untouched, I had to face four enemy cons on my six, all faster than me.

 And you still had the cynism, and hard face (caradura in spanish) to say in the country channel "if you get rid of two of them I'll run for help you". Heh.

Nath, you can be the best F·$"%ing stick in this god-damned game. But you are the worse teammate and team-pilot I've ever known.

And no duel will ever change that.

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 01-23-2001).]

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2001, 04:59:00 AM »
Wheres written that losing a duel makes you wrong? If its true then I could be always wrong  

Relax, enjoy the game and help your fellow Knights  
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2001, 05:51:00 AM »
RAM, Nath has dived to save my bellybutton more than a few time.

I can actually not come up with a situation since he joined 9./JG 54 that he hasn't if I've been in trouble.

Just wanted to say this in Nath's defense.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2001, 06:53:00 AM »
I'm an honest witness HE never dive to save my as*
That's perhaps because I fly bish only  

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2001, 07:19:00 AM »
Santa, its understood that when you fly in a squad, you help your squadmates...I was talking in a general sense. I think in any knight as my mate and teammate. And I try to help when I am needed.

REally would be the last to see that he EVEN doesnt help his squadmates. If he really didnt do that for his squad, I am sure he won't be in une, unless created by himself (and flew alone by himself).

BTW I noticed he is no longer in Jg54.

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2001, 07:33:00 AM »
I've not seen a situation where Nath hasn't jumped in to help either.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that has a problem with his piloting or teamwork skills.

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2001, 07:36:00 AM »
I dont think somebody's whole character can be judged by single incident?

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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2001, 07:37:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
I've not seen a situation where Nath hasn't jumped in to help either.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that has a problem with his piloting or teamwork skills.

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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2001, 07:38:00 AM »
Enough with your weenie waving.

RAM, take this private please, the rest of us don't want to listen to it.  Kudos to Nath for just saying nothing so far.

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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2001, 07:44:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Jochen:
I dont think somebody's whole character can be judged by single incident?



not exactly. I dont keep a daily track of the times he didnt help, nor an agenda of the situatons  

But...let's say that its not a casual incident. Not by far.

Anyway I said what I had to say, and answered to his demand for a duel. Have nothing more to tell.

.  Kudos to Nath for just saying nothing so far.

Think he is still sleeping   he was answering in the other thread at 4AM Eastern time  




[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 01-23-2001).]

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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2001, 08:10:00 AM »
Well...

Nath flew with the 13th TAS the other night in a 51 which is not his ride of choice. His SA was excellent and he flew as part of the flight and not on his own selfishly.

I've watched you fly Ram, and you don't make good decisions...to fly low into higher inbound enemy and then expect others to follow you to their certain death is silly. If you spent as much time improving your skills in this sim as you do talking, you would be the best pilot in AH

Quit picken on folks, will ya?

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2001, 08:42:00 AM »
 
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Maybe, but I'll never hire him as a PR guy (Image removed from quote.)

LOL!  I thought that was implied

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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2001, 08:53:00 AM »
Heh!  I love it when they eat their own

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2001, 09:07:00 AM »
if i remember correctly me and nath flew ju88's light to simulate me110's? right nath?
cant be sure but i think im right.
RAM if nath is such a score potato why would he fly like this for the fun of it? I think you need to understand that i have helped and been helped by nath and have never seen him leave me behind.If someone breaks off engagements for what ever reason so what?
JG54 and JG2 often fly together and i must say i get extra pleasure helping fellow LW flyers.
Ram at least nath keeps his name and doesnt use another for fear of pilots hunting him or ignoring him when in a sticky situation  
I would have always helped you out ram but now i dont know who you are and i tend to immediately help those i know but when its pilots i dont know i assess the sit first.
examples of great backup when in trouble:kirin,stsanta,xup,hanzo,ash,hizakite,bigjoe,gium,swager,yiptoad,ghosth,kronos,aper etc etc etc...to be honest im struggleing to think of any that dont help.
why are you always complaining? I dont see any reason other than you like to complain  

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2001, 09:11:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by hazed-:
Ram at least nath keeps his name and doesnt use another for fear of pilots hunting him or ignoring him when in a sticky situation  

sorry but this can't go unanswered.

remember kep?

enough said.