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Offline Cajunn

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Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« on: May 08, 2009, 02:13:17 AM »
I watch post after post, thread after thread come up and it always comes down to the spit 16 being a newb ride, a dweeb ride or more experienced players shouldn't fly it. I would like to know, who do you guys feel is eligible to fly the spit 16, I never hear anyone say the spit 16 should only be used by ____________? I fly it, I'm not a newb or a dweeb, I fly it because it is one of the most versatile planes in the game. It has a good turn (not the best), it has good climb (again not the best), it has good acceleration (not the best) and it has good roll but again (not the best). And in the opinion of most players in the game the hog is the most versatile plane in the game, but you never hear anyone talk about that ride being unacceptable. I don't find it any easier to fly then any of the other spits , in fact I find that the spit 9,5 and seafire or probably a lot more forgiving and though the spit16 is faster it's not winning any races low, medium or high. So please, I'm asking, who do you guys feel should be flying this plane??   
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2009, 02:19:50 AM »
I think most ppl think it is a dweeb plane b/c they get beat by it. I like it the only thing I don't like about it is the fuel loadout. I wish it had a lil bit more.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2009, 02:36:32 AM »
Oh and it has crap loads of ammo...

You know why I don't fly the spit?  Because everyone says its  a dweeb plane...   :lol

Plus when I fly a spit it seems like I am targeted first in a fight.  I do more evading than hunting in one.  I think that is the reason I am starting to do better in a Yak,  because no one goes out of their way to chase it.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2009, 02:40:24 AM »
Oh and it has crap loads of ammo...

You know why I don't fly the spit?  Because everyone says its  a dweeb plane...   :lol

Plus when I fly a spit it seems like I am targeted first in a fight.  I do more evading than hunting in one.  I think that is the reason I am starting to do better in a Yak,  because no one goes out of their way to chase it.


 :rofl you know, your right !!!!!
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2009, 02:48:32 AM »
It's called a noob ride because even a noob can get a kill with 1 :aok


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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 02:57:43 AM »
I watch post after post, thread after thread come up and it always comes down to the spit 16 being a newb ride, a dweeb ride or more experienced players shouldn't fly it. I would like to know, who do you guys feel is eligible to fly the spit 16, I never hear anyone say the spit 16 should only be used by ____________? I fly it, I'm not a newb or a dweeb, I fly it because it is one of the most versatile planes in the game. It has a good turn (not the best), it has good climb (again not the best), it has good acceleration (not the best) and it has good roll but again (not the best). And in the opinion of most players in the game the hog is the most versatile plane in the game, but you never hear anyone talk about that ride being unacceptable. I don't find it any easier to fly then any of the other spits , in fact I find that the spit 9,5 and seafire or probably a lot more forgiving and though the spit16 is faster it's not winning any races low, medium or high. So please, I'm asking, who do you guys feel should be flying this plane??   

Cajunn, you are working too hard.  If you are having fun, don't worry about it.  Bottom line is the Spit 16 does just about everything well, so it's less of a challenge to win a fight in one.  Hopefully in time you'll challenge yourself with other birds that test your abilities a bit more.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 03:10:53 AM »
Cajunn, you are working too hard.  If you are having fun, don't worry about it.  Bottom line is the Spit 16 does just about everything well, so it's less of a challenge to win a fight in one.  Hopefully in time you'll challenge yourself with other birds that test your abilities a bit more.

But again, if you are enjoying yourself, don't apologize for it.

 :rofl I'm at home hopped up on diet coke and bored out my mind(Firefighter, crazy hours)......I do fly it, but not as much as you would think. I was reading a few post and it just always ended up with the spit16 being this super be all kill all demon plane that everyone should avoid. And I was just telling someone a couple of nights ago that it was such a sweet ride, and I didn't know why it gets so much flack. So I thought I would ask!

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 03:32:14 AM »
I fly it, I'm not a newb or a dweeb,

Uhh yes you are a dweeb.  all flight simmers are dweebs. Forget not the venerated Book of Dweeb.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 03:35:18 AM »
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2009, 04:45:36 AM »
Uhh yes you are a dweeb.  all flight simmers are dweebs. Forget not the venerated Book of Dweeb.

Well, I find it funny that he says that considering the fact that he augered 3 times last night when I was attacking him. That's no fun... or maybe it was the other cajun.. gosh..

If you like spit16 so much why don't you try the Ki-84. It has more personality ;)
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 04:46:50 AM »
It gets so much flak because, unlike you describe it Cajunn, it doesn't just do those things "well" but does them very well, and those things aren't independent. Remove the maneuvering E-retention on the Ta152 and you've got a terrible lump of junk. Remove the P38's neutral torque and you have a lumbering and compressing target.  The Spit16's combination of excellent (yes, excellent) visibility, turn (instant and continuous), roll, climb, and easy ballistics, and extremely forgiving handling, make it the quintessential dweeb ride.  End of story.

Whether you want to attach a stigma to this is another story.  I see nothing inaccurate about calling it a noob ride though.
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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 04:51:53 AM »
Yea and to say that the spit5 and 9 are more forgiving is beyond me. How is more forgiving to have 303s and half the cannons in one of them. + They are slow and you're not gonna be getting away from much. Spit 16 has decent speed and acceleration + great climbrate which can get you out of a lot of jams. If you're a decent stick you're going to be outturning pretty much everyone bar a zero/fm2/hurri. the only reason to fly a spit9 over a spit16 is the pink skin and eny. Spit5? forget about it, you might as well graduate from spitfires then because a 5 is a limited MA plane.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 05:06:39 AM »
Spit XVI no mater you like it or not is an easy plane to fly. In fact is easy as a Zero or a D3  :) At least they way i "feel" the plane. I have seen people in a spixteen doing some incredibly stupid maneuvers and yet survive from their hunter. When I'm flying the XVI most of the times i score kills. You can do almost everything with it except trying to outdive a 47 or a Dora or run on deck with a pony. Other than that you can turn, roll. or fight in a vertical with ease. Feels to me like fly an ultralight. If you try to push it out of the envelope you will blackedout first. I repeat my self once again but i don't think the real plane had the same "carefree handling" as in the one in the game. Unfortunately my English are not good enough to express exactly my view on the matter but i hope you get the general idea.

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2009, 05:17:15 AM »
well since even i can score kills in it, it is a dweebish noob ride :)

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Re: Who is suppose to be able to fly the Spit 16
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 05:42:16 AM »
I'm pretty sure it was the other Cajun, I'm Cajunn........and I agree with everything you guys have to say about it. But the question is.......should it just become a hanger queen because its a great plane. And if its so easy to fly and (taken in consideration it might be over modeled or under perked in the game) who would be acceptable in the game to fly it? If that would be the case then every plane in the game with a sizable edge (i.E. 262, F4U-4, Tempest,) even though perked, what makes it different from these planes. When you have people with more perks then they know what to do with and it's not a really big lost for some players to up perk ride after perk ride......Oh....... I see, there is a non perk ride in the set that if your buzzing around in your perk ride might have an advantage or at least has enough to maybe worry you, though its been argued against that the sixteen can't compare to these super rides. You know I like flying it sometimes, and even though it is such an easy ride it still comes down to who's pilot, I have had guys just school me in p-51's, 109's, f4u's and so on, so if some newd in a sixteen gets a "lucky" shot on you don't blame the plane.......my last post on this!  
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