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Offline PanosGR

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PTAP in IL2
« on: September 28, 2012, 09:37:41 AM »
Do we have this kind of bomblets –they call it PTAP- in AH? Looks very destructive, and we don’t…why?

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Re: PTAP in IL2
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 11:02:02 AM »
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Re: PTAP in IL2
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 05:40:57 PM »
Try PTAB.

IL2 carried them along with a version of the Yak9-D which had bomb tubes behind the pilots seat. We probably will never get these modeled due to their effectiveness via dispersion coverage while only needing one to destroy or disable a tank. Like a miniature version of low level carpet bombing over a spawn point.

PTAB would be exploited to bomb from very low alt with a shotgun scatter effect to hit targets becasue the minimum alt was about 250ft. 700ft created the best scatter pattern from level flight to hit tanks. Basicly you could sneak up on Wirbels and popup carpet shotgun bomb them. You could do the same over water against gun positions on ships. And land targets protected by ack. The same happens now with rockets and conventional bombs but, the PTAB would be released in bomblett clusters that scattered in a wide pattern. 48 in the IL2 per release or 32 in the Yak9B if HTC introduced that version. It would be a possible last resort to kill all 10 or more troops running, in one pass by screaming out from the hanger 20ft off the deck almost invisible until you popped up and scattered your PTAB.

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IL-2 against Panzers

Despite some success in gun armament the main combat weapon against German panzers starting from 1943 became anti-tank cumulative air bomb. New air bomb was designed in ZKB-22 under management of I.A. Larionov Effect of a new bomb was as follows: while hitting the tank armor detonator worked out, which through detonating charge resulted in charge explosion. When charge detonation, owning to so called hollow cone, cumulative spurt was created, which resulted in piercing the armor of up to 60mm under angle of 30’ with subsequent destruction effect like annihilation of tank crew, detonation of tank ammunition, inflaming of fuel or its vapor. This was confirmed by polygon testing. The minimum altitude, accounting for bomb alignment to a tank armor surface was 70 meters.

IL-2 could carry up to 192 air bombs (PTAB-2, 5-1,5) in four cassettes (48 units per cassette) or up to 220 units when rationally placed in four bomb compartments.

When dropping PTAB bomb from the altitude of 200 meters under horizontal flying with the speed of 340-360 km/h, a bomb was hitting an area of 15 square meters in average. Depending on bomb load the total destruction area of PTAB bomb was 15x 190-210 square meters that ensured almost guaranteed destruction of any German panzer located in that area. In fact, the area occupied by one tank was approx. 20-22 square meters and even one bomb hit was well enough to put a panzer out of operation, in most cases for good.

http://www.battlefield.ru/library/il2_7_r.html
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1. Shaped charge liner.
2. HE charge.
3. Bomb body.
4. Fragmentation jacket
5. Booster.
6. Primer.
7. Inertial weight with firing pin.
8. Inertial weight spring.
9. AD-A fuze.
10. Arming propeller.
11. Stabilizer.





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Re: PTAP in IL2
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 07:13:59 AM »
Try PTAB.

IL2 carried them along with a version of the Yak9-D which had bomb tubes behind the pilots seat. We probably will never get these modeled due to their effectiveness via dispersion coverage while only needing one to destroy or disable a tank. Like a miniature version of low level carpet bombing over a spawn point.

PTAB would be exploited to bomb from very low alt with a shotgun scatter effect to hit targets becasue the minimum alt was about 250ft. 700ft created the best scatter pattern from level flight to hit tanks. Basicly you could sneak up on Wirbels and popup carpet shotgun bomb them. You could do the same over water against gun positions on ships. And land targets protected by ack. The same happens now with rockets and conventional bombs but, the PTAB would be released in bomblett clusters that scattered in a wide pattern. 48 in the IL2 per release or 32 in the Yak9B if HTC introduced that version. It would be a possible last resort to kill all 10 or more troops running, in one pass by screaming out from the hanger 20ft off the deck almost invisible until you popped up and scattered your PTAB.

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IL-2 against Panzers

Despite some success in gun armament the main combat weapon against German panzers starting from 1943 became anti-tank cumulative air bomb. New air bomb was designed in ZKB-22 under management of I.A. Larionov Effect of a new bomb was as follows: while hitting the tank armor detonator worked out, which through detonating charge resulted in charge explosion. When charge detonation, owning to so called hollow cone, cumulative spurt was created, which resulted in piercing the armor of up to 60mm under angle of 30’ with subsequent destruction effect like annihilation of tank crew, detonation of tank ammunition, inflaming of fuel or its vapor. This was confirmed by polygon testing. The minimum altitude, accounting for bomb alignment to a tank armor surface was 70 meters.

IL-2 could carry up to 192 air bombs (PTAB-2, 5-1,5) in four cassettes (48 units per cassette) or up to 220 units when rationally placed in four bomb compartments.

When dropping PTAB bomb from the altitude of 200 meters under horizontal flying with the speed of 340-360 km/h, a bomb was hitting an area of 15 square meters in average. Depending on bomb load the total destruction area of PTAB bomb was 15x 190-210 square meters that ensured almost guaranteed destruction of any German panzer located in that area. In fact, the area occupied by one tank was approx. 20-22 square meters and even one bomb hit was well enough to put a panzer out of operation, in most cases for good.

http://www.battlefield.ru/library/il2_7_r.html
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1. Shaped charge liner.
2. HE charge.
3. Bomb body.
4. Fragmentation jacket
5. Booster.
6. Primer.
7. Inertial weight with firing pin.
8. Inertial weight spring.
9. AD-A fuze.
10. Arming propeller.
11. Stabilizer.

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:salute nice info wtg :salute.