Author Topic: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents  (Read 1888 times)

Offline Panic

  • Zinc Member
  • *
  • Posts: 46
Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« on: February 28, 2014, 05:57:59 PM »
Title says it all, have at it.
"The German Commander sent a letter to the USA Commander calling for the surrender of the encircled USA troop. The reply from the USA Commander was NUTS! " Band of Brothers By Stephen Ambrose.

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23876
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 06:01:31 PM »
1. How will the software distinguish between intentional and accidental crashes?
2. There is already one: If you fly into your enemy you will take damage, quite often your opponent will not
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17849
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 06:26:40 PM »
Title says it all, have at it.

Don't fly into people and you won't take damage.

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6901
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 08:31:35 PM »
I have won only 2 collisions out of at least 100 where I'm not the guy falling to earth or blowing up immediately.

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23047
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2014, 08:41:38 PM »
I have won only 2 collisions out of at least 100 where I'm not the guy falling to earth or blowing up immediately.
Stop flying into other airplanes then.

As context, I have a 30-50ms connection to HTC and "win" most of the collisions I am involved with because I don't hit the enemy airplane.

Ping times don't actually matter, but some people insist that good ping times cause collision losses so I mentioned them.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 08:43:18 PM by Karnak »
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline The Fugitive

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 17849
      • Fugi's Aces Help
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2014, 09:10:45 PM »
I have won only 2 collisions out of at least 100 where I'm not the guy falling to earth or blowing up immediately.

If you collide, YOU SHOULDN'T WIN! So DON'T COLLIDE!

Why is this so hard to understand people!

Offline JimmyD3

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3927
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2014, 12:42:42 AM »
If you collide, YOU SHOULDN'T WIN! So DON'T COLLIDE!

Why is this so hard to understand people!

Need a cartoon Fugi!!!!! :devil
Kenai77
CO Sic Puppies MWK
USAF 1971-76

Offline FLS

  • AH Training Corps
  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11614
      • Trainer's Website
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2014, 01:32:08 AM »
Title says it all, have at it.

Title says nothing useful. Would you like an explanation of the collision model?

Offline Dragon Tamer

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2047
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2014, 10:43:52 AM »
1. How will the software distinguish between intentional and accidental crashes?
2. There is already one: If you fly into your enemy you will take damage, quite often your opponent will not


This.

Title says nothing useful. Would you like an explanation of the collision model?

Sounds like it.

The fact of the mater is that it's almost (if not is) impossible to tell when a collision was accidental or purposeful. I collided with an F4U yesterday because a frame rate of 10 combined with a dive speed of 500 mph made it impossible to avoid. Should I have been punished for that?

Offline ReVo

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 775
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2014, 11:08:08 AM »
I understand how the collision model works. I am still baffled by the fact that I "Lose" 99% of collisions, even the ones where I am rammed from dead-6 by some idiot who can't figure out how to use his guns.
XO Jagdgeschwader 53 'Pik As'

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6901
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2014, 11:33:35 AM »
If you collide, YOU SHOULDN'T WIN! So DON'T COLLIDE!

Why is this so hard to understand people!


Maybe I should have been more clear.

Many of the collisions I have mentioned were me in a GV or buffs being attacked by a fighter.

I still don't see how an airplane can survive a collision with a tank but I've seen them fly off not even smoking after seeing the collide message.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2014, 12:00:35 PM by icepac »

Offline mbailey

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5677
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2014, 11:54:25 AM »
Mbailey
80th FS "Headhunters"

Ichi Go Ichi E
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.

When the game is over, the Kings and Pawns all go into the same box.

Offline FLOOB

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3054
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2014, 12:10:51 PM »
I'd like to see film of a gv dying in a collision with a fighter.

More to the point, even if someone is intentionally crashing into opponents, why should he be penalized?
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans” - John Steinbeck

Offline Randy1

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4216
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2014, 12:30:55 PM »
I can't say I have ever been rammed by anybody with intent to ram.  I have had collisions most often when the fight is real close.  I have hit someone from the six when their plane blended in with the ground graphics and once when I checked my six and I closed much faster than I thought.

Someone had posted awhile back both planes should lose a collision ever time.  I am afraid that would lead to ramming.

I just don't think intentional ramming is a significant issue.  I think it might be if it were not a pay to play game.

Offline Hoplite

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 427
Re: Penalty for intentionally crashing into opponents
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2014, 12:33:14 PM »
I have won only 2 collisions out of at least 100 where I'm not the guy falling to earth or blowing up immediately.

Yup.  Same here.  What greater penalty do you need?  Gonad electrocution?