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What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« on: November 05, 2016, 12:36:48 PM »
Noticed this in a noter thread.  If anyone had a list of them it would be great :)

Only only i found was the tempest has a single wep cycle.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 02:14:04 PM »
Only only i found was the tempest has a single wep cycle.


Tempest still has at least two, if not more.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2016, 02:20:32 PM »
I hope there is a list out there , but basically if the aircraft needed water or water/methanol injection ( nitrous oxide should apply too ) for their WEP setting , then the water tank will run out eventually .  It's not so much a single cycle as its using its supply of fuel (water ) up.

I've ran out of water in a P-51D , P-47M  and F4u-1a. So i know those run out for sure .   Some planes (p-38) use a higher manifold pressure to achieve the WEP hp rating,  so it doesn't have a water or nitrous tank that runs dry.  That is my understanding of it .... could be wrong
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2016, 02:56:02 PM »
P-51 does not use water.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2016, 05:54:04 PM »
I hope there is a list out there , but basically if the aircraft needed water or water/methanol injection ( nitrous oxide should apply too ) for their WEP setting , then the water tank will run out eventually .  It's not so much a single cycle as its using its supply of fuel (water ) up.

I've ran out of water in a P-51D , P-47M  and F4u-1a. So i know those run out for sure .   Some planes (p-38) use a higher manifold pressure to achieve the WEP hp rating,  so it doesn't have a water or nitrous tank that runs dry.  That is my understanding of it .... could be wrong

As was pointed out, the 51 does not carry water. And planes that carried water usually carried enough for periods so long that you would be more concerned by fuel shortage. For example the 190d should carry enough for 40min of mw50 use

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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 09:52:12 PM »

Tempest still has at least two, if not more.
tempest will not re-cycle. I've tried numerous times
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2016, 10:31:35 PM »
tempest will not re-cycle. I've tried numerous times

My Tempest does. Tested it offline and used it that way in game, AH3.

Just to make sure, you do activate WEP at an appropriate altitude? Tempest is one of the planes with a rather small altitude region where WEP actually produces a boost.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2016, 02:34:22 AM »
My Tempest does. Tested it offline and used it that way in game, AH3.

Just to make sure, you do activate WEP at an appropriate altitude? Tempest is one of the planes with a rather small altitude region where WEP actually produces a boost.
i was capping a field anywhere from 3-7k and the temp guage would reach middle yellow and as soon I'd hit WEP, I'd have over heating temps with no extra power.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2016, 04:24:21 AM »
and the temp guage would reach middle yellow

WEP in AH is still strictly time based. The temp gauge doesn't really matter for this purpose. If I recall correctly, Tempest has a 5/10 minute WEP cycle.
Just to make sure I tested the Temp again in offline mode, and after a 2 minute cooldown I got 1 minute of WEP back, just as expected.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 03:30:59 AM »
P-51 does not use water.
My bad on the 51... they must be going by the operating manual that restricted use to a certain amount of time.

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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2016, 06:35:17 AM »
the two 38's with WEP do run out.

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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2016, 06:38:32 AM »
WEP in AH is still strictly time based. The temp gauge doesn't really matter for this purpose. If I recall correctly, Tempest has a 5/10 minute WEP cycle.
Just to make sure I tested the Temp again in offline mode, and after a 2 minute cooldown I got 1 minute of WEP back, just as expected.
Lusche sorry but currently in game the WEP is different than the past, you can take traditional aircraft like the spits 51 38 exc. and run them out to the point the wep never comes back. I did this to the 38 on my first run then hot padded 3 more times and never got to more wep.

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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2016, 06:57:16 AM »
Lusche sorry but currently in game the WEP is different than the past,


I didn't say anything contrary to that. I know HT has said he put  max limit on some, but the way WEP itself works is still the same. X minutes of WEP time for Y minutes of cooldown time.

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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2016, 09:59:54 AM »

I didn't say anything contrary to that. I know HT has said he put  max limit on some, but the way WEP itself works is still the same. X minutes of WEP time for Y minutes of cooldown time.

Which wasn't a point anyone was arguing.
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Re: What planes in game now have a single WEP Cycle?
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2016, 02:24:43 PM »
I wrote we extrater for the planes.
Here is its output.

Name|HeatRate|CoolRate|Total Time
to calculate time from rate simply divide 1 / Rate.
I.E. p51d wep times is 1.0 / 0.0033 or 303

p51d 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
109g10 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
spit9 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
b17g 0.003300 0.001000 0.0
c47a 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
la5fn 0.001650 0.001650 600.0
n1k2 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
190a8 0.001650 0.000825 1200.0
c205 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
f4u1d 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
b26b 0.003300 0.001000 0.0
109f4 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
109g2 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
109g6 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
f4u1c 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
spit5 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
p38l 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
c202 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
typhoon 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
190a5 0.001650 0.000825 1200.0
yak9u 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
a6m5b 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
p47d30 0.003300 0.001650 900.0
p47d25 0.003300 0.001650 900.0
ju88a4 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
lanc3 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
f6f5 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
tbm3 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
seafire 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
tempest 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
ar234 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
ta152h 0.001670 0.003330 2400.0
190f8 0.001650 0.000825 1200.0
la7 0.001650 0.001650 600.0
yak9t 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
190d9 0.001670 0.003330 2400.0
p51b 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
p47d11 0.003300 0.001650 900.0
ki611c 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
il23 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
me262 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
f4u1 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
f4u4 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
hurri2c 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
hurri2d 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
mossie6 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
ki67 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
110c4 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
spit1 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
109e4 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
hurri1 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
110g2 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
spit14 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
boston3 0.003300 0.001000 0.0
f4f4 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
fm2 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
a20g 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
d3a1 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
sbd5 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
a6m2 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
p40e 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
p40c 0.000000 0.000000 600.0
me163 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
ju87d3 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
b5n2 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
ki84 0.011110 0.022220 600.0
b24j 0.003300 0.001000 0.0
p38g 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
p38j 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
p47n 0.003300 0.001650 900.0
109g14 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
spit8 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
spit16 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
rv8 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
f4u1a 0.003300 0.001650 480.0
b25c 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
b25h 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
p39d 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
p39q 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
i16 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
b239 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
p47m 0.003300 0.001650 900.0
dr1 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
f2b 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
camel 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
dvii 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
mossi16 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
g4m1 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
b29 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
a6m3 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
p40f 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
p40n 0.003300 0.001650 600.0
fi156 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
me410 0.001650 0.001650 2570.0
ju87g2 0.000000 0.000000 0.0
seahurr 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
he111 0.003300 0.001000 600.0
ki43 0.011110 0.022220 600.0
yak3 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
yak7b 0.003300 0.001650 0.0
tu2s 0.001650 0.001650 600.0


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