Author Topic: why do you hate the Lagg7 ? (Read 2193 times)

vorticon · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2003, 06:41:19 PM »

i hate it because it dont exist

bustr · « **Reply #16 on:** May 21, 2003, 07:02:58 PM »

By the amount of complaining and grousing I see concerning the LA7 by some of the hottest pilots in AH,,,,this must be a good thing.

I've flown most of your planes over the past 12 years in AW and can attest you guys have gotta be the Aces of Aces. Uber Men.

Why complain??

Just shoot the stinkin little things down and get on with being the best. This reminds me of interviews with German pilots and how they felt when a red nosed LA7 25 kill Russian ace showed up and they all ducked their FW's and scattered.

I fly the LA7 because it does everything you complain about. I have 2 ACM rules of engagement: 1. I won't pull the trigger if I'm not between 50 to 200 yds from you. 2. I won't shoot you when you are hangin in your chute. Other wise I know when my little red nosed rocket shows up, all of you are gonna stop what ever your doing to kick my tush.

I want to thank you all for collectively turning me into an Uber Pilot like your selves. Just think, if you didn't care so much I would just be the stinking lousy pilot I've always been with no hope of ever improving.

But, because you guys hate me so much I never have a moments peace in AH.

I'm always running hiter and yonder from a pack of IRATE:eek: Aces and protectors of the True Way OF THE AH trying to blow off my tail parts.

I really am a very lousy AH ACM pilot...check my scores. Guys, I have been playing AW since the late 80's. You folks are better than most I ever saw in AW. LA7 should be ezy peezy peice of cake for each of you to chew up and spit out.

-bustr-

Shane · « **Reply #17 on:** May 21, 2003, 08:17:18 PM »

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Originally posted by SunKing

2) Certain vets still only fly the LA7 and continue to bash newbies on channel 1 over how "great they are". It would different if they had the grapefruits to actually fly a plane that took skill/courage/ACM to survive instead of flying straight lines back and forth.

lol. it's not the noobies i slam, it's the weakarsed "vets" or "almost vets" who themselves don't know any acm other than HO or gang.

anytime you want to get squeakslapped in the DA, just ask. i'll even let you call the plane. how about... fw190a5's?

then we'll see who actually understands "ACM." and who has the "grapefruits."

you see, been there done that, got the t-shirt that says "runners suck."

hmmmmm?

lol.

Arlo · « **Reply #18 on:** May 21, 2003, 08:19:02 PM »

Shane .. the LA-7 weenie.

bfreek · « **Reply #19 on:** May 21, 2003, 08:42:54 PM »

UDET .. self control .. breath deep..in...out...in...out.

la7 doesnt seem that spectacular except at under 15k

far as whether its is a lagg, ragg, nagg, studmuffing ..who cares ...ya know what i'm talking about.

bustr · « **Reply #20 on:** May 21, 2003, 09:11:59 PM »

How do you run away in MA anyway.? Every time I think Ive run away from one group in my LA7, I run into another and get killed. Some body in a N1K, spit, FW, BF, Poni, 38, 47, 202, 205, buff or just in a jeep with a duce kills me.

Then when I get into a furball on someones tail, either my own kills it before I do over my shoulder or one of the red guys ruins my day along with 3 of his frinds in a trian behind me.

I hear Shane charms enimies to sleep with his LA7 and paints his name on their rudders. How come no hue and cry about Shane the Unfair lala driver ??

Sorry Shane you are a public Icon in AH of well earned skill.

-bustr-

-----I know I can fly, I just wish I could keep my tail parts attached to my planes long enough to show ya------:)

Arlo · « **Reply #21 on:** May 21, 2003, 09:21:45 PM »

Shane puppets as bait .... for shame, Oopsy.

Puke · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2003, 01:14:49 AM »

Too many danged Spits, N1Ks and LA7s. But the LA7 is the biggest crutch of them all. And 450 rounds of 20mm IS a lot...it doesn't take as much to bring someone down and so in comparitive terms, the 20mm round is worth several 50-calibre bullets. And no tears for you LA7s accelerating out of one fight into another...at least you were able to exit that one fight rather than have to stay and duke it out. That's just poor SA. Otherwise, you people take LA7's 'cause you need a handicap.

SunKing · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2003, 01:47:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane
lol. it's not the noobies i slam, it's the weakarsed "vets" or "almost vets" who themselves don't know any acm other than HO or gang.

anytime you want to get squeakslapped in the DA, just ask. i'll even let you call the plane. how about... fw190a5's?

then we'll see who actually understands "ACM." and who has the "grapefruits."

you see, been there done that, got the t-shirt that says "runners suck."

hmmmmm?

lol.

Isn't this about the time you run to the bigweek newsgroup and ask for someone to defend you like before.

You crack me up. You have an excuse or silly name for everyone/everything. If we go to the DA you will either brag or have some reason why I won. God knows I read 10 excuses a night on channel 1 why you were killed. Usually it's the hypocritical "I was ganged excuse". In the MA of all places...sigh

Keep flying that LA7, kill those n00bs and keep insulting them on channel 1, I'm sure the community appreciates that.

You are the essence of dweeb in AH.

Shane · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2003, 02:18:36 AM »

lolololol.

i can clock just about anyone in a plane of their choosing.

face it. you suck. lamer gangers suck. clueless seals, one and all. and the sad thing is no one is out there teaching them anything other than "hey! let's all 5 of us go for that low bogey and prove how skilled we are!"

lol.

when was the last time you took a noob aside and actually showed them something useful? i bet i've done it more than you.

sorry, i simply won't endorse lamosity with a faux .

ask around, ask people if they've gone to the DA with me and what their experience there was. the fact that you're sitting there making all sorts of assumptions only shows me how clueless (and fixated) you are.

SlapShot · « **Reply #25 on:** May 22, 2003, 08:53:53 AM »

"at least you were able to exit that one fight rather than have to stay and duke it out. That's just poor SA. Otherwise, you people take LA7's 'cause you need a handicap."

LOL .. again, complete generalization and conjecture on your part. I know of 2 La-7 pilots that will not run, and Shane is the other one. I don't know bustr, but it sounds like he won't be runnin' from ya either.

I don't know what country you fly for Puke, but if you run into me and my La-7 I can guarantee you will have your hands full. What most people don't realize is I don't give a rats bellybutton if I get shot down, so there is no real incentive for me to run. I would much rather fight ... thats what I am here for.

I enjoy the 2 vs 1, 3 vs 1, and live for the 1 vs 1. As bustr points out, those types of engagements only make me a better pilot. What I have learned flying the La-7 only transfers to any other plane that I fly, with that, I can be deadly in any plane that I fly.

One of the main reasons that I fly the La-7, and I beleive its one reason Shane flys it, is I abhor the "runners" and with my LaLa, that option usually isn't available.

The La-7 is also the ultimate goon killer. I see a raid coming into a field, I saddle up with 100% fuel and go a huntin'. Nothing better than ruining a raids day by wackin' their goon(s) ... oh ... and their escorts if need be. Once the goon(s) is dead, return to base and help wipe up the leftovers.

I did watch one of Shanes diatribes on Chan 1 and he got the guy to go to the DA with him. I decided to follow and watch in "God Mode". Shane cleaned his clock in every plane the guy choose, but the surprising part of this story is that Shane explained, in great detail, how come the guy lost and what he should have done. Shane then proceeded to make the mistakes, on purpose, so that the other guys could try to execute what Shane was teaching him ... key word here ... TEACHING. Oh .. and when Shane got back to the MA, not one word about the spankings. I do believe that if you did beat him, in the DA, 1 v 1, you will get a <~~>, but would you not brag when returning to the MA ?~~

OIO · « **Reply #26 on:** May 22, 2003, 09:20:23 AM »

IMO, there's nothing wrong with the LA7. Its just a P-51 under 15k with the accel of a 109G10 on wep. Fortunately, its got the horrid turn rate of said 109g10 and the same terrible low speed handling of the 109g10 on wep.

Defeat the La7 by making it turn and using its ONLY advantage, its monster acceleration, against it: SCISCOR IT.

The planes that are 100% crutch for the skilless are the spit9 and the n1k. Both are excellent turners and excellent high speed fighters with excellent dive speed and both are armed with a cheeseload of cannon ammo to spray and pray with. Both have no stall behaviour worth mentioning (which I think the n1k's is royally wrong, 2000hp single engine at 40mph and smoother control than a P-38.. bollocks!)

The only disadvantage of the spitIX and N1k is their top speed. Which is a rather insignificant disadvantage since their 20mm cannons cannot be outrun, and these 2 planes WILL stay inside d1.1 for a very long time spraying you.

WineMan · « **Reply #27 on:** May 22, 2003, 10:18:20 AM »

First off - none of this is meant as a personal attack, but want to further the discussion here...

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Originally posted by SlapShot
I enjoy the 2 vs 1, 3 vs 1, and live for the 1 vs 1. As bustr points out, those types of engagements only make me a better pilot. What I have learned flying the La-7 only transfers to any other plane that I fly, with that, I can be deadly in any plane that I fly.

Okay - now I have to pipe in! Slapshot, do you actually fly anything but the La7? Looking at your stats, I can see you've done a few token runs in a few other planes (although your number 2 ride is the Spit IX)! Or do you fly alot of other planes but you just don't get the kills in something besides the La7?

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Originally posted by SlapShot

One of the main reasons that I fly the La-7, and I beleive its one reason Shane flys it, is I abhor the "runners" and with my LaLa, that option usually isn't available.

Well I can't comment here - never met you in combat....

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Originally posted by SlapShot

The La-7 is also the ultimate goon killer. I see a raid coming into a field, I saddle up with 100% fuel and go a huntin'. Nothing better than ruining a raids day by wackin' their goon(s) ... oh ... and their escorts if need be. Once the goon(s) is dead, return to base and help wipe up the leftovers.

I would hope you could at least kill a goon with something besides a La7 - I mean.... it's not like they can "run" away very fast!!

I also have to disagree with this:

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Originally posted by SlapShot

Saurdaukar ... how 'bout this scenario

As an example - lets say your in the middle of a great fight with an 190, you then gain the advantage and will be in a position to fire soon. The 190 can basicaly choose to turn tail and run - and you cant do anything about it. So you chase for a minute, give up, turn around, to go find someone else. Once the 190 sees you have disengaged, he will turn and follow - catch you - engage you, loose the advantage, run away again, rinse, repeat.

Its smart flying on the part of the 190 guy, but again, just like the 109, the 190 allows the pilot to make multiple mistakes during the course of an engagement and still dictate the pace of the fight. It just gets tiresome after awhile.

The thing that will piss the 190/109 pilot the most is that if in the scenario above, they are fighting an La-7, then can't get away.

You're totally wrong here - at least about the part of making mistakes. A 190, if you fly it wrong and get low and slow, you are flat out dead unless very lucky. They don't accelrate nearly as fast as an La7 (not even the Dora), and stall out like you wouldn't believe... I know, I fly them! On the other hand, a La7 low on the deck is a great target for my 190, if I fly it right and don't get sucked into a turn fight down low....

I'm not nearly as afraid of the La7 as when I first started flying AH - I know how to kill one, and I know when I'm basically screwed and will be shot down by one - I just don't understand how some people can pretty much JUST fly La7's? I mean, doesn't it get boring?

SunKing · « **Reply #28 on:** May 22, 2003, 10:41:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Shane
lolololol.

i can clock just about anyone in a plane of their choosing.

face it. you suck. lamer gangers suck. clueless seals, one and all. and the sad thing is no one is out there teaching them anything other than "hey! let's all 5 of us go for that low bogey and prove how skilled we are!"

lol.

when was the last time you took a noob aside and actually showed them something useful? i bet i've done it more than you.

sorry, i simply won't endorse lamosity with a faux .

ask around, ask people if they've gone to the DA with me and what their experience there was. the fact that you're sitting there making all sorts of assumptions only shows me how clueless (and fixated) you are.

Yet another typcial Shane attack of pathetic name calling.

Its always the same from you...

"you suck" attacks.

"baby seal" good one stolen from Fester... get your own material.

"Shane vs the gangers , Shane saves the day" this is soo old and anyone flying the MA can use this.

"Shane kills n00b in DA is proud and brags" continue to drag this through the dirt.

"when was the last time you took a noob aside and actually showed them something useful? i bet i've done it more than you"

Now that is funny. All you do is insult kids that are trying to learn to fly this game. As Soon as I log I see your name scroll the buffer with some belittling comment. I can't believe you are even allowed to continue with the trash you talk on channel 1.

This thread is so over. You've already proven yourself to us. Nothing you say can change the way you act in the MA.

Shane · « **Reply #29 on:** May 22, 2003, 11:11:46 AM »

lol. if you hump my ankle, you bet i'll flip you off.

lol. your cluelessness is manifesting itself very clearly.

"seals" goes back much further than fester.

i don't brag about what happens afterwards in the DA, nor do i bring it back to the MA. shows how little you really know.

lol i insult "kids" lololololol. i'm sure about 98% of the people i address directly are well over the label "kid."

typical ankle humper, you get your bellybutton handed to you first via planes, second via text and then you run off making one last feeble attempt at an insult before proudly announcing a "squelch."

lol. lame. weak. clueless. mommy!! mommy!! make the bad man stop!!!

you can't handle the truth!