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Offline Tarmac

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« on: October 28, 2003, 02:18:21 AM »
A buddy of mine is a 3d graphics guy.   As part of his portfolio he's modelling a Hind.  We're both kind of stumped as to what this thing is though.  Looks like it may be some sort of countermeasure dispenser, but the doors face forward, not backward.  Maybe a sensor of some sort?

The big pod right under the gunner, on the right side of the craft.  Here are a couple of pics.  

http://www.brent-thomas.com/mi-24_1.jpg
http://www.brent-thomas.com/4940.jpg
http://www.brent-thomas.com/4942.jpg
http://www.brent-thomas.com/4943.jpg


Btw, if anyone needs a 3d graphic artist, he's looking for work
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2003, 02:53:44 AM »
Definitely some sort of sensor.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2003, 03:24:57 AM »
I'll bet for the ATGM targeting system: low-level light TV, laser designator and FLIR... KPS-53A electro-optical sighting pod.

On the other side is the Raduga-F semi-automatic missile guidance pod.

Just an educated guess.:aok
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2003, 08:39:47 AM »
Klingon's Cloaking Device :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2003, 12:42:18 PM »
Always wanted to fly one of those. Anyone fancy starting up a syndicate? Sure there must one out there in our price range. Quite a laugh to land at the local flying club.



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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2003, 12:51:36 PM »
HIND F: Fixed 30-mm twin gun on the right fuselage side.

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2003, 02:50:15 PM »
Website said Hinds max G-load was 1.75 Gs!! Thats absolutely horrible.  Must be an error?

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2003, 03:06:55 PM »
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Always wanted to fly one of those.  


cc, they're gorgeous in a weird ass-kicking butt-ugly kinda way :)

Thanks for the replies.   Frenchy obviously knows his stuff on 'em.

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2003, 06:38:30 PM »
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Always wanted to fly one of those. Anyone fancy starting up a syndicate? Sure there must one out there in our price range. Quite a laugh to land at the local flying club.


You will, of course, need a kickass paint job...


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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2003, 06:48:57 PM »
Raduga LLLTV/FLIR.  The doors are for FOD protection.

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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2003, 07:44:21 PM »
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Always wanted to fly one of those. Anyone fancy starting up a syndicate? Sure there must one out there in our price range. Quite a laugh to land at the local flying club.


I read an interview in the mid '90s of one of our helo pilots who does op for work in Army training exercises and who had also flown the full range of US helos including the Comanche.  He said that of all the helos he had flown the Mi-24 Hind was the one he liked to fly most.  It wasn't what he'd most want to fight in, but for flying fun the Mi-24 was it.

He did mention that the Mi-24 was very good against US troops at the beginning of training exercises as they didn't really understand how fast it is.  It is, IIRC, the fastest helo in the world still.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2003, 01:59:18 AM »
The bulbous section is a flip down lid that covers up a Raduga - F SACLOS and LLTV system under the nose. The Gun is a gattling style GSH-23.

The 1.75 G limit was set because of the problem of mast bumping and tail strikes. The hind also had a nasty problem called "pick up" in a recovery from a high G dive the main rotors could and many times did strike the tail boom.

If you combine that with high density altitude operation and an already heavy rotor disc loading - you have a craft that while fast - does not like to change direction and mush's in turns. 1 particular incident speaks to this during the cold war.

Before the AH-64 came into play, the Hind's main adversary was the AH-1 Cobra. In this encounter the Hind's advantages lay in its speed and rate of climb, while its weakness were poor horiziontal maneuverability. The Hinds usually met the Cobra's on opposite sides of the fences from East and West Germany. Most encounters were peaceful but in the early 80's a Hind was scrambled to intercept an AH-1G. The cobra pilot was really sharp - he would follow the boarder at low level, repeately accellerate, pitch up sharply to bleed off speed. The Hind crew had a hard time following the Cobra crew, when the Cobra pitched up and the Hind crew tried to follow by hauling back - it tumbled and mushed, the pilot did the only thing possible - he pushed the stick forward to unload the main rotors and to avoid hitting the ground back again. Seconds later the main's struck the tailboom and the crew was killed.

As for the Hind's legacy - it stands as the 1 aircraft that has seen continual combat for its entire operational history and is a very mature and robust weapons platform. I'd take it up anyday.

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2003, 02:55:44 AM »
Seems to me that the Hind combines the negative qualities of both an attack helicopter and cargo helicopter into 1 platform.  

Its huge, can carry only 8 troops, and has a 1.75g limit.  Not good at all.

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2003, 03:24:54 AM »
Ah yes the Hind. Coolness factor is enormous, looks like a giant bug!

I'm sure many of the Hind's vices have been addressed in later models and upgrades.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2003, 12:13:45 PM »
Yep ... better be on the right side of the fence:D
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