WTG SCHUMI

[Wanker]

I follow Formula One, CART and Nascar religiously. My favorite is CART. Funny thing about Formula One is that all the good stuff happens before the race, in the pre-race TV coverage.

It's kinda funny to think that people go wild with excitement when there is ONE pass made in a Formula One race. In CART, there are usually tens of passes made in a race. CART drivers may not be as good as the F1 guys, but they sure put on a much better show!

I want to see a 1-2 Minardi finish soon!   LOL!

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by banana:
It's kinda funny to think that people go wild with excitement when there is ONE pass made in a Formula One race. In CART, there are usually tens of passes made in a race.

That is the proof that F1 is more difficult than CART  

[Lephturn]

It was a good race.  Shame that Mika didn't get to race him for it.  Mika was light on fuel so was going to have to pass Schuey and gain ground.  Then if he got by, Schuey would have been lighter or ran longer... well it would have been a good race if Mika hadn't blown up.

I can't believe Villeneuve blew that pass.  He missed his braking point by like 100 feet!  He could have braked at the same time as Frentzen and still held the line into the turn.  Oh well.

BTW RAM, F1 doesn't have much passing because of their reliance on aerodynamic grip over mechanical grip.  It has nothing to do with the "difficulty" of the two series.  When they pull their head's out in F1 and limit the aerodynamics more heavily, you will see much better racing and more passing in F1.

F1 needs slicks and smaller wings.. then it would be competitive again.

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[Wanker]

Btw, here's an interesting site for F1 enthusiasts. Lots of video of past F1 tragedies and victories.

 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/panton/F1gallery.htm

[AKDejaVu]

I agree Dowding.  F1 lost a great deal of interest for much of the world on that fatefull day that Senna and Prost would battle no more.

one mistake though:

 

As for CART - they don't even race in the rain!!! There's no fun in watching them crash (which a great majority of people watch F1 for). At least they go a bit faster, shame alot of the tracks are dull ovals.

CART doesn't race in the rain on the ovals.  This is because of speeds in excess of 230 mph.  Its just too dangerous.

They do race road courses in the rain.

AKDejaVu

[RAM]

Lepht...Monaco GP.

THAT is a race   and if you see how is the circuit you'll understand that F1's passing is harder not only because the vehicles but because the circuits themselves  

[MrLars]

Go fast, turn left,
 repeat....repeat....repeat... repeat....repeat....repeat... repeat....repeat....repeat... repeat....repeat....repeat... repeat....repeat....repeat... repeat....repeat....repeat.

That's NASCAR

Lars

oops...forgot...pit in, add fuel and copious amounts of duck tape.

[AKDejaVu]

Nascar also races on a few road courses.. very few.  But they are a kick to watch.

Since you brought that up... there was a series over here with the best racers from sedan series, sprint cars, dragsters, NASCAR, CART and so on.  The drag-racer constantly beat the others out on the road-races.

Don't knock the racers because of the track.  They didn't get there by not knowing how to handle a car... unless maybe they are an Andretti.

AKDejaVu

[hblair]

Lars, you forgot to put in there something called p-a-s-s-i-n-g.

 

[Fariz]

 

Originally posted by banana:
In CART, there are usually tens of passes made in a race. CART drivers may not be as good as the F1 guys, but they sure put on a much better show!

Safety car in CART makes me mad. It kills all the fun. I watch f1, f3000, nascar, only if nothing else interesting CART. But that is only my taste, I do not want to say that my taste is the absolute truth (while it is  ).

About Schumacher, sometime he is too agressive, but saying that he wins because he cheats is a... little bit far from the truth. He is just uber, so we have to blame his parents for unbalancing F1. They probably did not made design documents when they modeled him. BTW, with Ralf they made it right, he is quite ballanced pilot  

Fariz

[funked]

Well first off, it was not a great performance by Schumacher.  He was very lucky that Häkkinen's motor failed.  Mika had set fast lap on 8 of the last 11 laps and was reeling in Schumi like Zebco.

My second point is that NOTHING compares to 22 F-1 cars SCREAMING past at 220 mph.  NOTHING!  Yes I was there        

(What's a NASCAR?)

[Wanker]

Funked, ya lying sack of doo-doo, they never got up to 220mph. Fastest speed was clocked at just over 203Mph. What a bunch of wimps!

 

Extremely jealous that I wasn't there on Sunday with you,

banana

[funked]

Lephturn I agree 100% about the wings and slicks.  Also I have been told that the turbulence behind the cars can disrupt the flow to the airbox inlet, causing a power reduction for a following car.

I thought Jacques should have waited one more lap to pass Frentzen.  But Frentzen had a very low-downforce setup and was quite fast on the straight.  

I agree that JV blew his braking point.  I have had the same problem before (in karts and sims) when learning a new track - I know my braking point when I am on the line but if I get off-line I lose track of where to start braking.

It was a shame he spun, as we were really pulling for him to get on the podium.  Maybe next year they'll run on the oval configuration and he can teach them furriners a lesson.  

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[funked]

banana there were several cars at or above 350 km/h on Friday.  I guess that's 218 mph, close enough to 220 mph for me.    

I didn't catch the trap speeds during the race but I guess they must have been running more wing and running slower at the end of the straight.

We're buying tickets for next year tomorrow.  Let me know if you want one.    

PS We went down to the wall in practice and you could hear them start braking AFTER the 100 meter mark for turn 1.  That's 200 mph to 70 mph in about 100 yards!

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[Staga]

Nice avi-video here, Shows "True" Schumacher  

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