Author Topic: Guy wins new EVO for 26K on Ebay - Mark Mitsubishi (seller) refuses to sell it!!!! (Read 2482 times)

Pfunk · « **on:** October 31, 2003, 02:01:44 PM »

Pretty chitty what they did to the guy

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=442510

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2438028950

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2003, 02:29:13 PM »

That dealership is screwed. Nothing like a bunch of pissed off rice-burning 'Net jockeys to ruin your day. They should picket on the sidewalk out front and get on the news.

NUKE · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2003, 02:46:17 PM »

Who would pay that much for a crappy EVO?

I work real close to that dealership. I might go in and act like I want to buy an EVO, take up about 4 hours of their time, then tell them I was just kidding about wanting to buy one.

mrblack · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2003, 02:56:17 PM »

NOTE

We reserve the right to notify bidders and cancel this auction AT ANY TIME. We shall not be held liable for any such cancellation and/or closure. We reserve the right to cancel bids from those with excessive negative feedback. We shall not be held liable for any such cancellation and/or closure. Thanks for bidding and Good Luck !!!

Gotta watch that fine print It's a killer.
But yeah the dealership is pritty chitty to do this to the dude that for sure.

gofaster · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:07:01 PM »

I agree with MrBlack. The offer came with disclaimers, including this one:

"We reserve the right to cancel all existing bids and end the auction early should the item no longer be available for sale."

That would indicate that there was more than one venue for the sale of the vehicle. Seems to me that the dealership was hoping they'd get a better offer via eBay than they would off their lot.

I'm not sure I'd accept the "autobroker" storyline. I would think a true autobroker would get it directly from the distributor rather than a dealership. Sounds to me like another customer picked it up one weekend before the auction expired and the dealership took the money that was on the table.

I would also want to know if this car was damaged somehow before a title was issued, and had been repaired by the dealership. Seems to me that it would be kind of fishy to offer a hot new model through eBay with no minimum reserve set.

texace · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:25:38 PM »

The auction wasn't canceled early, says the guy. The bidding closed at 6:33 with him as the winning bidder, but the dealership sent an e-mail about two hours after the auction to say the car was sold. Yes, it's in the fine print about notifying buyers about auction closure, but the auction was already closed and the deal finalized when the dealer decided they didn't want the EVO to go.

LePaul · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:41:00 PM »

Yea I just read 9 pages of forums....he won, then several hours later, the dealer goes "Whups, we sold it for more money"

In no certain terms, they screwed the pooch. Several thousand car enthusiasts are emailing, calling, etc the dealer, generally making their life miserable (or trying).

$29k buys a lot of advertising, they'd be best to cough up the car to the buyer, own up to the situation, and make nice with the public again.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:45:47 PM »

Car salesmen are one of the lowest forms of life on earth.

DoctorYO · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:47:35 PM »

Never seen a Ebay user with a negative number (-1) wtf...

Their disclaimer is not valid and a clear violation of ebay policy... They agreed to ebay policies by listing the car.. and hence would fall under false advertisement laws depending on the state. They may also qualify for federal violations if the bidder was from another state...

Ebay is a binding contract plain and simple.. you cant have contradictory and ambiguous disclaimers when selling your wazzit to escape local and federal business laws.. (laws take precedence over disclaimers)

My opinion is that they will be hit with false advertisement, or worse fraud for unfair business practices by saying the vehicle was sold when its collecting dust on the lot.. (they may be able to doctor some paper work for the courts but then they are digging their own grave in my opinion and could backfire)

At least Florida law would crucify these folks.. Scams are dime a dozen down here now that all the Tristate trash is relocating... (**** yoos, but how bout them yankees)

Our attorney general would put the hammer down..

No doubt..

But Arizona who knows... They got some goofy laws in the western states dating from old west days..

My 1 & 1/2 cents

DoctorYo

PS: we all should send this to FARK.COM then the **** will really hit the fan..

NUKE · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:48:13 PM »

I'm about 3 blocks from that dealership. I feel the need to go "shopping" for an EVO.

Be funny to waste their time like they did to Ebay bidders.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:53:02 PM »

Hehehe, Nuke, tell us how it went!

Personally, I think the car is butt-ugly. But, hey, to each there own...*Shrug*

LePaul · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2003, 03:53:23 PM »

Never seen a negative? Oh I have...I've had 0 (zero) feedback buyers hit my auction "Buy it Now" buttons, that boldly proclaim "PayPal Payment Only" and then ask where to mail the money order. Tried to err on the side of caution, be nice and say sure, mail it....3 weeks, no payment, leave negative, they holler how i scammed them and leave me neg feedback. Feedback is a double edged sword. I used to always leave feedback on all my auctions. Now, unless the other party does, I do not.

If you Negative a DeadBeat, they just turn around and Negative you. eBay wont do a thing.

Dago · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2003, 06:02:04 PM »

ebay has long ago stopped caring about the people using their service, and started focusing on the money!

Some guy is selling stuff cheap, than charging outrageous shipping prices. He sells things like a set of socket racks for a dollar each, small item really, then charges $26 to ship them. Screws ya with shipping fees. He has many negative feedbacks now. When I sent ebay an email about this guys business practices, they sent me back a BS form letter response.

Expect no integrity from ebay, just greed.

dago

Bodhi · « **Reply #13 on:** October 31, 2003, 06:14:11 PM »

THe dealer is screwed if this kid decides to sue them. He will wind up with a hell of a lot more than an EVO.

My 2 cents.

Lazerus · « **Reply #14 on:** October 31, 2003, 06:40:02 PM »

I work at a dealership (thanks for the vote of confidence there funky:aok ), and I tend to agree with the bidder on this. The wording in the disclaimer does not cover what the dealer claims happened, as they did not end the auction early, or notify the bidder that a higher bid had been recieved. They owe consideration for their offer.

And while I understand where the stereotype comes from, we aint all bad:(