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Offline T1loady

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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2003, 02:07:47 PM »
What does that mean Sikboy? Did I say something out of line? If so this will be my last post... Sorry if I offended anyone..

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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2003, 02:09:55 PM »
toad never said that Scott- in fact Toad is a former AF pilot, current commercial pilot and all round good guy.

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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2003, 02:16:17 PM »
Hey Toad, sorry about that, I jumped into you butt to fast before ready the entire article about what you were talking about.  I mean zero disrespect at all, I just went off an a tangent that I shouldnt have.  I guess that reading these boards and replying isnt a good idead unless I look at the meaning of the other guys post. Again sorry about that Toad.  Blue Skies to ya (S)

And to the other guys thansk for the heads up.  I didnt mean to be a bone head....

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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2003, 02:17:22 PM »
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What does that mean Sikboy? Did I say something out of line? If so this will be my last post... Sorry if I offended anyone..


Sorry for the confusion. Toad is trying to support the same position you are. The thread he posted was an example of DavidPT40s understanding of the military and those who serve in it.

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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2003, 02:17:46 PM »
Loady-

Here's a rare opportunity. What is the feelings of the troops in Baghdad these days. How is morale...really..is the media accurate or not?

Also, how is the overall situation in Baghdad? Are the residents getting restless with out presence? Are the troops still welcomed there?

What I'm asking is, how do you feel about the situation, vs what we all hear in the news?

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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2003, 02:27:39 PM »
Mukmaw, I said I was deployed, but I didnt say where.  I am not in a position that I can comment on anything that is going on at a particular location.  I was speaking of the past when I referd to BIAP and I would rather not comment on my current locaton.  Even if I could, I fly C-130's and dont get onto the ground much to see what is going on in the city and how the "troops" are doing.  We as Air Force guys are normaly staging from bases outside the "hot area"  I know that most (85-90%) of the guys that I work with, are here becuase they belive in the mission. I am sure that everyone would rather be home, but are proud to serve. Sorry that I cant go into more but in my first post I put my name and command and would rather not make anymore statements that compromise any OPSEC.  I am sure that you understand..

O'yea,  did I say that I was a bonehead Toad?

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« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2003, 03:55:59 PM »
NP, T1.

I'm not a fan of PT40 in the least.

Just linked to his former thread to give a point of reference for his comments on the military.

I see no need to go into great detail on just where I'd put him on the scale of "life important to the survival of the nation" but hey, you have to fill chuckholes with something and asphalt is expensive.

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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2003, 04:07:51 PM »
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Loady-

Here's a rare opportunity. What is the feelings of the troops in Baghdad these days. How is morale...really..is the media accurate or not?

Also, how is the overall situation in Baghdad? Are the residents getting restless with out presence? Are the troops still welcomed there?

What I'm asking is, how do you feel about the situation, vs what we all hear in the news?


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« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2003, 04:57:17 PM »
Very sad indeed.

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« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2003, 05:09:45 PM »
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« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2003, 06:37:38 PM »
Thats almost as many as where lost in Black hawk down.

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« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2003, 06:38:20 PM »
peace to those these deaths have left behind for their agony has just started
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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2003, 01:12:04 AM »
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Ok first of all.  As a "currenlty" deployed Aircrew member I would like to say thanks to the guys that are supporting the military and the decisions that the President and my military leadership.  

Second of all, to Toad, we are not all morons.  We dont have the quanity of deployed forces to assign fighter escort to every non shooter in the book.  I am currenlty deployed about 280 days a year and couldn't even think how much I would be away from my family if we had to escort every flight.  

Third, As to the question of notification of a crash and number injured or killed.  The military will announce a crash, and the number on board, but will not release the names of anyone on board till ALL families or next of kin is notified. I know this to be true because I have had several friends die in crashes in the last 2 years and sometimes we didnt even find out until after the NOK was notified.

Fourth, I have been into Baghdad over 30 times and yes it is very dangerous.  I sure hope that everyone out there not only thinks about our troops deployed to Iraq right now, but also remember the guys still in the **** in A-stan.    Sorry if I sound like a jerk here, but I would much rather be home with my family flying online with you guys then deployed to a ****-hole reading posts on a friendly board calling me (a guys who has been deployed over 450 day since 9/11) a moron. I know I signed on the dotted line and I cant blame anyone for this, but  a little support from home would be nice.  Again, thanks to the guys that had the kind words...

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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2003, 01:22:26 AM »
The USA needs to find out who the rags are getting theses weapons from!
then they need to go kick the watermelon out of that rathole country.

We need to make it too painful for these bastardos to do buisness with anybody in Iraq.
Man we need to put the fear of GOD in there arse:mad:

I am getting so sick and tierd of good American diying for theses
Chitsucking scumbbags .
Scew em all lets come home let em sleep in the cold and eat camel watermelon for all i care:mad:

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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2003, 02:31:01 AM »
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These types of comments disqualify DavidPT40 from having a valid opinion on anything remotely relating to the military. The lack of respect he's shown to Vets on this Board, his low opinion of the people, past and present, who are/were military and the very fact he's still a youngster disqualifies his opinion.


Instead why don't you refute his arguments?  If they are as invald as you make them sound, you should be able to so with little difficulty.  Because I certainly don't see wtf his cronological age has to with it.  Perhaps I should disqualify what such a fossil has to say based on the fact that he is older than dirt.  ;)

The respect I do or do not show veterns has nothing to do with the strengh of my arguments.  Infact, calling upon such a thing is nothing but base rhetoric.

Airhead, really, break it down and refute.