Author Topic: Arab Fuehrer? (Read 1213 times)

Shuckins · « **on:** November 03, 2003, 05:29:25 PM »

Quote: Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini, appointed Grand Mufti of Jerusalem by Sir Herbert Samuel, the High Commissioner of British Mandatory Palestine in 1921, played a central role in introducing the ideology and tactics of the National Socialism of Adolf Hitler into the Arab world. In a career that spanned more than 5 decades, el-Husseini contributed to the development of Nazi style organizations in Arab capitals, acted as a conduit for money confiscated from Jews by the Nazis during World War II to be used to finance anti-Jewish and anti-Israel activities, and lived in Berlin during the war years where he headed a Nazi-Muslim government in exile. (end quote)

For more information about this relatively unknown master of genocide, click on the link listed below:

http://chuckmorse.com/muftism.html

Admittedly, this is a pro-Israeli site, and the author undoubtedly has an axe to grind. Nevertheless, it does offer a great deal of information about the origins of much of the violence that has plagued the Middle East in modern times. El-Husseini was an officer in the Turkish army that murdered more than one million Armenian Christians during World War I. He helped organized an all-Muslim SS unit in Nazi Germany. He was involved in the massacre of Serbian Christians in Yugoslavia during World War II, and also had a hand in organizing the "final solution" in Nazi Germany. He was also the mentor of such Middle Eastern leaders as Gamal Abdel Nasser, Saddam Hussein, and Yasir Arafat ( who is his nephiew.

A fascinating read.

Regards, Shuckins

mrblack · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2003, 06:29:39 PM »

there aint an arab born that would make a wart on Adolfs Arse.
although insaine Adolf was very smart.
And you'r camel jockey on the evolutionary tree is still at root level.

crabofix · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2003, 06:51:36 PM »

Yep, I think I have seen some pictures of SS soldiers in "Totenkopf" FEZ in a book.

Curval · « **Reply #3 on:** November 03, 2003, 06:55:02 PM »

Given that Arabs are semities they sure made a "deal with the devil" there. Had the Nazis won they would have found out very quickly just how stupid they were to do so.

Off to the camps they would have marched.

Idiots.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #4 on:** November 03, 2003, 07:59:19 PM »

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Originally posted by crabofix
Yep, I think I have seen some pictures of SS soldiers in "Totenkopf" FEZ in a book.

Those were probaly Bosnian muslims, I think the Ustashe set that up somehow although since they were often fanatic catholics it doesnt fully make sense. Anyway Himmler was apprently very positive on Islam as he found the relgions promises of glory in the afterlife for death in 'battle" to be very very convenient and useful for soldiers... Of course this message still has appeal today....

Nashwan · « **Reply #5 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:13:21 PM »

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Given that Arabs are semities they sure made a "deal with the devil" there.

The Mufti's actions are not the most bizarre. Lehi, one of the terrorist organisations operating at the time in Palestine, and jointly headed by Yitzhak Shamir, opened contact with the Nazis in 1941, suggesting an alliance to defeat the British, (and I think offering Palestine as a destination to which Hitler could deport the Jews of Europe).

Lehi kept up attacks on British forces in the ME throughout the war, when most Jewish orginisations had sided with britain.

miko2d · « **Reply #6 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:32:40 PM »

Curval: Given that Arabs are semities they sure made a "deal with the devil" there. Had the Nazis won they would have found out very quickly just how stupid they were to do so.
Off to the camps they would have marched.

Wow. You must have came out with this yourself as I've never heard anything so err... weird and illogical.

You think that just because some some ashkenazi jews - who may not even be semites, if some of their scientists are to be believed - arrogantly labeled their detractors "antisemites", the germans who had dislike for jews would somehow feel obliged to persecute arabs as well?

miko

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #7 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:35:48 PM »

Miko has a point. Although I think Curval does too - do any of us doubt that the Nazis would have turned on their "allies" after winning the war? How could you trust hitler to keep his word?

miko2d · « **Reply #8 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:40:33 PM »

Nashwan: ...not the most bizarre. Lehi, one of the terrorist organisations operating at the time in Palestine, and jointly headed by Yitzhak Shamir, opened contact with the Nazis in 1941, suggesting an alliance to defeat the British, (and I think offering Palestine as a destination to which Hitler could deport the Jews of Europe).

Considering that Hitler's plans originally did not include physical extermination of the jews and other minorities them, the actions of those zionists do not sound so bizzare and are quite in line with those their pragmatic approach.

Lehi kept up attacks on British forces in the ME throughout the war, when most Jewish orginisations had sided with britain.

Temporarily and not entirely selflessly. The way the Jewish Brigade exploited their unique position for sneaking in all the people and arms under the british noses is a facinating story. They always intended to blow brits away if those did not clear our fast enough.

miko

miko2d · « **Reply #9 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:47:45 PM »

GRUNHERZ: Miko has a point. Although I think Curval does too - do any of us doubt that the Nazis would have turned on their "allies" after winning the war? How could you trust hitler to keep his word?

It has nothing to do with trusting anyone - also they were no less trustworthy than any other power. Nazis had very specific doctrine and annexing lands in Africa was completely contrary to it. They may have been evil but they were not erratic.

miko

Seeker · « **Reply #10 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:53:53 PM »

Miko; are you AI?

I agree, however, with your postulations in this thread.

Any one care to define "State sponsored terrorism" for $10?

MRPLUTO · « **Reply #11 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:54:20 PM »

I think the SS guys in the fezzes were Turkish volunteers.

MRPLUTO

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #12 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:54:31 PM »

What makes you think the Nazis wouldnt want to extend their power to the mid east and africa and beyond? For example after winning WW2 do you think they would just leave the suez canal to the british or under arab control?

crabofix · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:58:45 PM »

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Originally posted by MRPLUTO
I think the SS guys in the fezzes were Turkish volunteers.

MRPLUTO

No I am pretty sure they where from yugoslavia. Cant find the book, but RSHA had writen some kind of doctrine about the "bosnian muslims" being some kind of "uberrace" equal to the aries. I think the documents covered 1500 years back in history.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2003, 08:59:37 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d

Considering that Hitler's plans originally did not include physical extermination of the jews and other minorities them, the actions of those zionists do not sound so bizzare and are quite in line with those their pragmatic approach.

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It has nothing to do with trusting anyone - also they were no less trustworthy than any other power. Nazis had very specific doctrine and annexing lands in Africa was completely contrary to it. They may have been evil but they were not erratic.

miko

Those are contradictory statements.... Just how much do the nazis hold to their plans and doctorines? By your own words you prove they were willing to deviate far enough from their plans to design and carry out the systematic extermination of 12 million people...