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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2003, 07:30:32 PM »
You want to talk rights and freedoms? Fine. Every child that is aborted NEVER gets the chance to excercise any rights and choices. Someone else took all that away from him/her.

Ironic how the Pro Choice side ignores the fact that birth control in all its many forms STILL solves the abortion issue before it ever gets started :rolleyes:  Birth control is a viable alternative to abortion. IMO no one has the right to kill another human being unless it's in self defense, that includes pregnant women.
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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2003, 07:33:22 PM »
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You want to talk rights and freedoms? Fine. Every child that is aborted NEVER gets the chance to excercise any rights and choices. Someone else took all that away from him/her.


Why don't children have rights or choices? Its still the parents call on both of those.

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Ironic how the Pro Choice side ignores the fact that birth control in all its many forms STILL solves the abortion issue before it ever gets started.


I don't ignore it, I even use birth control. Are there any, short of getting a visectomy or her tubes tied, that are 100% effective?
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« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2003, 07:34:30 PM »
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IMO no one has the right to kill another human being unless it's in self defense, that includes pregnant women.


Hey look it's a fetus!  IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!!!
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« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2003, 07:35:50 PM »
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EDIT: Condoms break, can come with weak areas that will turn into holes during sex, etc.
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True But just do like me and my wife do.
She takes the pill and I go without:rofl
J/K I wear a condom.

At 46 and 45 years of age we are a little old to be starting a family
So we take to proper steps to insure that don't happen.

Perhapes If others did the same there would be very little need for abortions(medical reasons only):aok
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« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2003, 07:37:10 PM »
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I don't ignore it, I even use birth control. Are there any, short of getting a visectomy or her tubes tied, that are 100% effective?
-SW


Butt sex blow jobs hand jobs titty butterin should i go on:D
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« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2003, 07:38:36 PM »
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You want to talk rights and freedoms? Fine. Every child that is aborted NEVER gets the chance to excercise any rights and choices. Someone else took all that away from him/her.

That's because parasites don't have rights.
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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2003, 07:39:18 PM »
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Hey look it's a fetus!  IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!!!!


LOL!  Look out, Ned!
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« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2003, 07:40:01 PM »
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That's because parasites don't have rights.


Well there goes you'r rights then:D
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« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2003, 07:40:48 PM »
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Are there any, short of getting a visectomy or her tubes tied, that are 100% effective?
-SW

Well, I wouldn't say 100%.  :)

http://www.kgw.com/health/stories/kgw_110503_health_botched_vasectomy.1f09bace.html
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« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2003, 07:42:23 PM »
Butt sex... if I want a fudgecicle I'll get it from Jello... wait, that doesn't sound too good...

Except for the BJ by an experienced woman, it'd be more fun to get new porn and jerk off to that. Be done in 5 minutes flat and not have to say, "Hey - don't worry, you did a good job!" as you roll your eyes.
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« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2003, 07:45:22 PM »
Ya know, I really should have done this before now...

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« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2003, 07:47:36 PM »
SOB I beat you to it LOL.
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« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2003, 08:07:59 PM »
This is about one minor sub set of abortions. the kind that takes place in the THIRD trimester.

If woman wants an abortion, I am all for her having the choice. I see nothing wrong with giving her a time limit. At some point that growth or Parasite as someone called it is a human life.

I fail to see how making the person who wants to have an abortion  do it in the first 90 or 180 days is bad.

AND AND AND
 
There is a clause in this bill. If the mother is in danger she can still have one to save her life.


Why is this a bad thing to the pro choicers here?

Again I am pro choice, because this is a case (one of the few in my book) of subjective morality. No one has defined tell now when that growth becomes a life.

No one is banning abortion, just one particular kind, that only a teribly iresponible person would want. Unless it is needed for the mothers life to be save. Take a step back and think about it.




P.S. Does it really bother the hell out of anyone else that the planed parent hood orginization is lying through their teeth on their page?
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« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2003, 08:26:55 PM »
Technically, Wouldn't the procedure be easier to just shoot the mother in the head?  That would make a lot of guys lives easier and reduce overpopulation.  Well, I guess that is illegal now too.
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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2003, 10:51:39 PM »
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Why don't children have rights or choices? Its still the parents call on both of those.


Actually children do have rights, and my oldest daughter does make choices and has ever since she could talk. Granted the intiall choices were simple ones like....cheerios or rice krispies for breakfast. The older she gets, the more choices she is allowed to make on her own, I think she does a remarkable job for a 9 yr old =)


Aborted children never get the chance to make ANY choices for obvious reasons
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