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« on: November 10, 2003, 09:40:34 AM »
How about Thanks for not reporting us to INS?

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--wal-mart-arrests1109nov09,0,3126522,print.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire

Illegal immigrants arrested in Wal-Mart raid file suit

November 9, 2003, 10:39 AM EST

FREEHOLD, N.J. -- Nine illegal immigrants who worked as janitors at Wal-Mart until they were arrested during federal raids last month have sued the company, accusing it of discriminating against them.

The Mexican immigrants, who worked as janitors, also accuse Wal-Mart and its cleaning contractors of failing to pay overtime, withhold taxes and make required workers' compensation contributions.

The plaintiffs, who face deportation, were among 250 people arrested in an Oct. 23 raid on 60 Wal-Mart stores in 21 states.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in Superior Court in Freehold is the first from immigrants arrested in the raid.

According to the lawsuit, Wal-Mart employed cleaning contractors "with full knowledge" that they paid illegal immigrants less than legal workers.

The lawsuit says managers at Wal-Mart stores in Old Bridge and Piscataway knew the nine plaintiffs were illegal immigrants.

"Wal-Mart must have known about these violations," the immigrant's lawyer, Gilberto Garcia, told The New York Times. "If these people are going to work at Wal-Marts, then Wal-Mart and its contractors should abide by the labor laws."

Mona Williams, vice president of Wal-Mart for communications, said the company did not know about the labor violations of which contractors are accused, or that they used illegal immigrants. She said Wal-Mart has long insisted that its contractors obey the law.

"Clearly, hungry lawyers are converging on these illegal immigrants as if they were accident victims," Williams said. "We have seen absolutely no evidence showing that Wal-Mart did anything wrong."

She acknowledged that Wal-Mart has received a letter from federal prosecutors warning that it faces a grand jury investigation into illegal immigrants employed at its stores.

The plaintiffs say they worked at least 56 hours a week and were not paid time and a half for overtime hours, those over 40 a week. They say they were paid between $350 and $500 a week.

They have asked Wal-Mart and its contractors for more than $200,000 in back pay they say they are owed for overtime.

The raid led to arrests in Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, North Carolina, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia.

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2003, 09:42:29 AM »
We deserve what we're getting...the clear result of a sick judicial who run the courts in our country....this case should not even be heard.

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2003, 09:44:32 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2003, 10:02:03 AM »
not only should this case be heard wal-mart should lose if the alegations are true.

not that I believe people working illeagaly deserve protection.  but if employers can get away with hiring illeagals and not paying legal wages and overtime then you and  I will have to compete with that and we will lose or be working under the same conditions.

the great thing if they win is that any time an illeagal gets done working here (either caught and deported or makes his money and is ready to go home)  he could then sue for back wages plus punitive damages.

this would make it much more costly for companies to risk hiring illeagals.  the only way to get their attention is to hit them in the wallet.

most peoples first impulse is to say "screw them they where here illeagaly, they deserve what they get"

but do you or your neigbor deserve to compete with someone who isn't protected under the law?

every time you allow someone to work in this country for sub-standard wages you devalue the american worker.

the only people who benifit from this sort of exploitation is those who aren't employed by someone for their income.

allowing this to go on is also unfair competition for decent law abiding companys who care about their employees.

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2003, 10:10:05 AM »
someone should castrate the lawyer who suggested to them that they sue.... :mad:

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2003, 10:25:46 AM »
Give them their back pay and ship them back to Mexico.  Personally I think we should hire frieghters to humanly ship them to Cozumel.  Then it would take longer for them illegally cross the border again.

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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2003, 10:30:16 AM »
I have to agree with apathy.

But soon they will not have to come here. Our companies are going to their country, so they won't have to travel to work for substandard wages.
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2003, 11:12:31 AM »
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Originally posted by Rude
We deserve what we're getting...the clear result of a sick judicial who run the courts in our country....this case should not even be heard.


The majority of judges are conservative... the majority of the federal judicialry was appointed by Reagan and Bush Sr.

If the Judges are too liberal for you.... you only have the Republicans to blame for it :aok

Rebulicans just changed the Senate rules to prevent the Democrats from filibustering... so now more judges will be appointed by whom? The conservative Rebulicans.

If the court system is too goofy for you who you going to blame?
Republicans have control of both houses, executive, and the judical system.

I guess it must be the Liberal press' fault...

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2003, 11:26:22 AM »
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I have to agree with apathy.

But soon they will not have to come here. Our companies are going to their country, so they won't have to travel to work for substandard wages.


Man aint that the truth:mad:

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2003, 12:01:11 PM »
If they felt like they weren't being treated properly (i.e. overtime, etc) then why did they wait until they were arrested to sue Wal-Mart and it's contractors?

Seems like they liked things the way there were, i.e. finding a job in the U.S. despite being an illegal immigrant.
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2003, 12:10:11 PM »
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Give them their back pay and ship them back to Mexico.  Personally I think we should hire frieghters to humanly ship them to Cozumel.  Then it would take longer for them illegally cross the border again.


I think we should build giant tent cities and throw anyone caught in the country illegally in them for 5 years, then deport them. Then I wonder how many would just come right back.

Seriously this is a huge problem that's not being dealt with. Then we have Mexico's president coming here and complaining that illegal immigrants are not getting enough healthcare and benifits...WTF!

I can literally drive 5 miles to the Home Depot and pick up about 200 illegals a day. They hang out all over the streets waiting for day jobs. God forbid you drive a truck....they will swarm all over you!

Yet nothing is done about them. The illagals in Phoenix were demanding the city build them a "Job Center" were they could meet in th emornings and look for work.

PC officials are out of control .

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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2003, 12:20:08 PM »
Should ask from the native americans whether they think you're illegal immigrants :D ;)

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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2003, 12:28:47 PM »
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Should ask from the native americans whether they think you're illegal immigrants :D ;)


You mean have them ask The Spanish, French and English right :)


p.s. The US aquired  our land legally from England, France, Mexico and Russia.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2003, 12:44:04 PM »
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I think we should build giant tent cities and throw anyone caught in the country illegally in them for 5 years, then deport them. Then I wonder how many would just come right back.
 


Florida already did this during with the Cuba boat people...

I disagree with having to pay to feed them for 5 years, and allow them to watermelon in our country.

I have this dream... we each illegal immigrant a parachute... show them how to pack it... have them pack their own... tell them to keep it and because the next time they are caught in this country illegally they won't get another free chute...

Then fly them to their country of origin and kick them out of the plane!

Hey they have the rest of their life to pull that D ring....
And the experience may just give them pause before they come back into this country illegally.

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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2003, 12:46:43 PM »
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You mean have them ask The Spanish, French and English right :)


p.s. The US aquired  our land legally from England, France, Mexico and Russia.


That's not true... The US Goveronment made numerous treaties with the nations of the American Indians and then broke them....