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Offline Dago

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« on: November 12, 2003, 10:46:30 AM »
I just can't take it anymore, I gotta ask.  

HOW IN THE HELL CAN ANYONE SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON??????

Don't people pay any attention to her actions?  Don't the supporters do any research?   Do they think so many of the people who have known and dealt with her are all liars?

For Gods sakes, do your homework, read a book or two, and not just that classic fabrication of lies and ommissions she published.

This has got to be one of the most evil, diabolical, scheming, self-centered woman on the planet.  Even Bill can't hold a candle to her for shenanigans, and he was/is a world class immoral jerk.

Now, line up all you good little liberals and tell me how wonderful she is.  Tell me why she ran for Senate from New York when she didn't live there, seems to me she was from Arkansas.   Tell me she didnt just look around for someone she thought she could beat and jumped into that state.  Surely her motives weren't selfish.  I am sure that all of a sudden New York just happened to be her oldbest bestest home state, and all of a sudden she gave a crap about it.

Gotta give her one thing though, she makes all the other politicians look good in comparison.


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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2003, 10:54:26 AM »
Dago wrote:
Don't people pay any attention to her actions? Don't the supporters do any research? Do they think so many of the people who have known and dealt with her are all liars?

Research?? Such as what? can you give examples of your such research?? What lies? What evidence is out there of her' lies?

Dago wrote:
For Gods sakes, do your homework, read a book or two, and not just that classic fabrication of lies and ommissions she published.

This has got to be one of the most evil, diabolical, scheming, self-centered woman on the planet. Even Bill can't hold a candle to her for shenanigans, and he was/is a world class immoral jerk.


Homework, read a book or two?? How is she so evil? What has she done? O, wait.. She killed all those people in arkansas... Wasn't it with a spoon too? She started with their eyes?? Lmao Dago, I would like to see 'your' research... What evidence have you to support your claims? Or do you just believe w/out any of the such??

I dont have to say how wonderful she is even if I thought so..  I didnt start a post stateing such.. But since you wrote one to the opposite, plz explain how and why you feel such hate for this women.. Is it because you have been told to feel such? Or do you feel such just because?? Please, enlightin me.. Tell of her atrocites...

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2003, 11:23:27 AM »
Show me some evidence of EVIL

 Lots of hate for Hillary out there, most of it seems to be personal dislike as opposed to based on facts.

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2003, 11:28:47 AM »
Isn't Hillary from Illinois? Not that I disagree about the woman per se...

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2003, 11:30:54 AM »
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O, wait.. She killed all those people in arkansas... Wasn't it with a spoon too? She started with their eyes??


Yep That's all true... and then she took all the babies and put them in blenders and made smoothies and forced their grandmas to drink it.

She sure is diabolical.... "it takes a village" was actually coded messages on how to build K-Bombs... kindergarden bombs. Yep pipe bombs wraped with a belt of nails, ballbearings, and hop-scotch-jacks... horrific when set off in a play ground full of toddlers.

She's also responsible for global warming.... on the side she works as a Las Vegas hooker in order to spread AIDEs to Republican politicians and pre-school boys.

She the head of Lamda Lamda Lamda, the notorious San Diego biker dike motocycle gang.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2003, 11:31:46 AM »
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Tell me why she ran for Senate from New York when she didn't live there, seems to me she was from Arkansas.


while I agree she shouldn't have ben eligable a good republican wouldn't/shouldn't bring this up.  it will only bring up questions about chaney being from texas and only moving to 'game the game' and get around the law that made it illegal for 2 men from the same state to be running-mates on the presidential ticket.

while it was wrong, she technicly had a legal right to do it.  much the same as the Bush/chaney scam.

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2003, 11:39:46 AM »
Senators from New York -

Moynihan, Daniel Patrick (b. 1927) - born in Tulsa, Tulsa County, Okla.

Kennedy, Robert Francis (1925-1968) - Born in Boston, Suffolk County, Mass.

Dulles, John Foster (1888-1959) - Born in Washington, D.C.

Seems to be a grand tradition in NY.

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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2003, 12:10:23 PM »
Seems to be okay in California also. Our governor wasn't even born in the U.S.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2003, 12:13:24 PM »
"This has got to be one of the most evil, diabolical, scheming, self-centered woman on the planet"

Aside from an ex-wife.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2003, 01:14:31 PM »
Seemed an appropriate place to copy/paste :aok
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From Capitol Hill Blue

CHB Investigates. . .
Sex, lies and Hillary Clinton's Presidential ambitions
By DOUG THOMPSON

While public polls show New York Senator Hillary Clinton the current front runner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, the former First Lady is telling friends and advisors that her biggest obstacle to going back to the White House is not George W. Bush but her womanizing husband.

So concerned are Mrs. Clinton’s campaign strategists, they have conducted a number of polls and focus groups to test public reaction to a divorce.

Early indications are the freshman New York Senator would run stronger without her husband’s baggage.

“The bottom line is that she’s popular. He’s not,” says Democratic strategist Holly Clarkson. “She has more appeal to the voters and she doesn’t need him to win an election.”

Clearly, divorce is one of the decisions Clinton must make if she decides to run for President in 2004. Her husband’s womanizing continues and tabloids have linked him to a long string of new lovers, including actress Demi Moore.

“Clinton is more of a potatohound now than when he was in the Oval Office,” says a New York City police officer who has worked guard detail on the former President. “The guy must be taking Viagra with all the tail he’s getting.”

Even some of the city’s high-priced call girls have told New York vice cops they have been servicing the former President.

“Some of them are just bragging and blowing smoke,” one vice officer told Capitol Hill Blue, “but I’ve known some of these girls a long time and I believe one or two of them. From all the stories I’ve been hearing, it’s possible.”

Capitol Hill Blue has also learned that Clinton’s Secret Service team has a higher-than-normal turnover rate as agents asked to be transferred away from the former President, even if the transfer means a lower-profile post.

“The agents don’t respect him,” says one retired Secret Service agent. “Can you blame them?”

Sources within the Democratic Party say Clinton’s ever-increasing philandering is worrying top party brass who now view the ex-President as a liability for fundraising and other uses.

“It’s difficult to arrange to have the former President appear at a high-dollar event and then find out he hit on the wife of the event organizer,” says one DNC staffer. “He is out of control.”

The former President’s very public love life is not the only affairs of the heart that concern Democratic strategists who are planning Hillary’s 2004 run for the Presidency. The worry about continued rumors on the Senator’s after hours activities.

“Don’t think that Hillary is sitting around waiting for Bill to come home and change shirts,” admits one Democratic consultant. “She’s done her share of bed-hopping. She just knows how to be discreet.”

After presidential aide Vince Foster’s mysterious death in 1993, rumors swirled around Washington about an affair between Hillary and the longtime Clinton confidant. Others suggested the First Lady preferred female companionship.

“She never talks about her private life,” says one former Clinton White House staffer. “She has one but it is exactly that – private.”

But campaign consultants worry that Hillary’s private life or sexual preferences will have a hard time staying private under the intense glare of a Presidential campaign.

Political scientist George Harleigh, who has watched the Clintons since their days in Arkansas, say Bill and Hillary have “one of the most complex and confusing relationships that we’ve ever seen in political circles.”

“The general impression has always been that their marriage is one of convenience,” Harleigh says. “I think it goes deeper than that. They seem to feed off each other, in both good times and bad. The question that will have to be answered if Hillary runs for President is ‘is the feeding frenzy over.’”

Spokesmen for both the Senator and the former President did not return phone calls seeking comment on this report.


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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2003, 01:15:26 PM »
i gosh damn dare you to name the media outlet you were driven to write that scandalous ignorant crap.

i.e. who told you your oppinion stupid?

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2003, 01:24:37 PM »
Rip-

You know how I feel about Hilary. I personally dislike her.

But that article was horrible.

They quote unnamed NYC cops, Unamed DNC staffers, Unamed Hookers....

That's a terrible smear job, even though I wish it could be believed, which it cannot.

I would like to see more points by the thread starter about why Hillary is so bad.

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2003, 01:29:54 PM »
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Rip-

You know how I feel about Hilary. I personally dislike her.

But that article was horrible.

They quote unnamed NYC cops, Unamed DNC staffers, Unamed Hookers....

That's a terrible smear job, even though I wish it could be believed, which it cannot.

I would like to see more points by the thread starter about why Hillary is so bad.


Why the hell do you think I posted it? :D  Considering the game I was fishing for, they don't have enough smarts to know the difference! (Waves to Lord Dork Vader)

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2003, 01:45:29 PM »
Interesting reading if you care to consider both sides:

"Absolute Power: The Legacy of Corruption in the Clinton-Reno Justice Department " by David Limbaugh

"The Secret Life of Bill Clinton," by British newsman Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

"Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Whitehouse," by Gary Aldrich

"Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton"
by Barbara Olson

"The Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Peggy Noonan

"The Final Days: The Last, Desperate Abuses of Power by the Clinton White House" by Barbara Olson

"Useful Idiots: How Liberals Got It Wrong in the Cold War and Still Blame America First" by Mona Charen

"Dereliction of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Endangered Americas Long-Term National Security" by Robert Patterson

"Hillarys Scheme : Inside the Next Clintons Ruthless Agenda to Take the White House" by Carl Limbacher

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Hillary Clinton has carefully constructed her public persona as a calm and nurturing earth mother, but underneath that thin veneer lies a coldly calculating and vicious schemer. Limbacher details Hillary's many temper tantrums and outbursts of foul language. Staffers recall her fits of rage and describe her as "in a perpetual state of anger." Dee Dee Myers, the former Clinton press secretary, says people "clammed up" when Hillary entered the room because "she would... humiliate you in front of your colleagues." Clinton also "tended to campaign against people behind their back."... Hillary's Scheme Inside the Next Clinton's Ruthless Agenda to Take the White House By Carl Limbacher - Review by Joanne McNeil



Interesting how so many books can detail, with eyewitness accounts and facts, the problems, behaviour (vicious) etc of two people so consumed with the lust for power and yet have some who haven't done any research, just watched the very slanted network news try to support them.

Some interesting quotes:

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Berkeley economics professor J. Bradford DeLong, who worked on Hillary-Care with Hillary - "My two cents' worth -- and I think it is the two cents' worth of everybody who worked for the Clinton administration health care reform effort of 1993-1994 -- is that Hillary Rodham Clinton needs to be kept very far away from the White House for the rest of her life." The Federalist Brief 03-32


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"So you've got this President, who'd been waving his wand at everyone who walked by for their entire marriage, and he does it in the Oval Office with an intern and she says that Starr's the one obsessed with sex? Hello?" --Brit Hume on Hillary's version of the Lewinsky scandal


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A man who carried the nuclear football for Bill Clinton says Americans need not be fooled by Hillary Clinton's efforts to remake herself by publishing a new book. Air Force Lt. Col. (Ret.) Buzz Patterson spent two years in the Clinton White House.  In his best-selling book Dereliction of Duty, the former Air Force pilot details his first-hand experience with the presidential couple.  He says people should not be fooled by Mrs. Clinton's attempted makeover.  Patterson says the Mrs. Clinton he knew in the mid-1990s is not the "demure, polite, soft-spoken woman" who has been appearing on recent interviews.  Instead, he describes her as someone who cannot be believed to tell the truth and an "ego-driven, sometimes vulgar and profane woman" who will stop at nothing to become the President of the United States.  The author also cautions those who read her book and listen to her interviews, advising them to ask themselves what the former First Lady's real motivation might be for doing those things.  AgapePress News Summary (June 12, 2003)


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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2003, 02:11:38 PM »
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Nancy Reagan has carefully constructed her public persona as a calm and nurturing earth mother, but underneath that thin veneer lies a coldly calculating and vicious schemer. Limbacher details Barbara's many temper tantrums and outbursts of foul language. Staffers recall her fits of rage and describe her as "in a perpetual state of anger."


Interesting quote :aok