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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2003, 09:32:31 AM »
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  Fools will be fools, history repeats itself and there's nothing you can do to change it.


As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

-Rudyard Kipling.

Neither here, nor there, but this reminded me of one of my favorite quotes.

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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2003, 09:38:29 AM »
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Thats great Dago..  thats all pretty much worthless..  reading material as well. you still have not posted anything to back your original statements. Also, you havent answered any questions I put towards you. I wonder in real life if you talk just for the sake of talking. It seems you post just for the sake of posting. One could only hope in real life you talk with less dribble than you post with....

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Nor have you answered mine, challenge that is. You still stand by your claim that my sig is a misquote from some right-wing religious wacko's? Still waiting. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2003, 12:34:18 PM »
Hey Iron....

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John Adams, the second U.S. President rejected the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and became a Unitarian. It was during Adams' presidency that the Senate ratified the Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Tripoli, which states in Article XI that:


        As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion - as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, - and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arrising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. (Charles I. Bevans, ed. Treaties and Other International Agreements of the United States of America 1776-1949. Vol. 11: Philippines-United Arab Republic. Washington D.C.: Department of State Publications, 1974, p. 1072).

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2003, 12:38:47 PM »
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people often ask "how could the german people elect Hitler as leader"... all i can say is look at how the liberals defend and support hillary.


Careful, that is a two way street.
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(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2003, 12:47:38 PM »
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Hey Iron....


Yeah? You have a point to make?

My beef with kappa is that he said I was wrong in my sig and that I was misquoting Adams and then pulled something out of his ass. When I asked him to prove it he got real quiet.
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2003, 01:00:59 PM »
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Hey Iron....


Hey MT....

5 entries found for Unitarian.
U·ni·tar·i·an    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (yn-târ-n)
n.
An adherent of Unitarian Universalism.
A monotheist who is not a Christian.
A Christian who is not a Trinitarian.  


Are you going to convince me belief in "God" (one) to include Christian, or not, does not validate Adams statment to religious or moral people?  
 
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2003, 01:07:03 PM »
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As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

-Rudyard Kipling.

Neither here, nor there, but this reminded me of one of my favorite quotes.

-Sik


Great poem Sik, only..... Rudyard obviously can't count.

(I always liked "If")

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2003, 01:10:54 PM »
Tumor  lol, dangit, cant get it to work

http://maximumd.crosswinds.net/moviewav/tumor.wav

I give up
« Last Edit: November 13, 2003, 01:13:54 PM by Sixpence »
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2003, 01:17:06 PM »
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Tumor  lol, dangit, cant get it to work

http://maximumd.crosswinds.net/moviewav/tumor.wav

I give up


hehe... hey I miss my usual MA greeting!!  Gonna hafta do something about my flight "hours" of late.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2003, 01:22:24 PM »
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Great poem Sik, only..... Rudyard obviously can't count.

(I always liked "If")


The fourth thing was contained in the last stanza, which I omitted:

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will bum,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return.

you can get the full text here:
http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm

As far as I can tell, it's a defense of Christianity in the face of a perceived moral decline, and a coment on the cyclical nature of such a decline.

But then, I never was an English major.

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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2003, 01:57:33 PM »
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My beef with kappa is that he said I was wrong in my sig and that I was misquoting Adams and then pulled something out of his ass. When I asked him to prove it he got real quiet. [/B]


lmao Iron.. your such a waste of time. Just so happens I have some to waste at the moment. .

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btw Midnight, thanks..  I thought your post would have been enough, but alas, Iron knows nothing of a rational thought process or at least I’ve yet to see an example of one from him.
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2003, 02:30:45 PM »
your right Iron.... Im wrong on all accounts except you being a waste of time...

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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2003, 02:46:10 PM »
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity."

[John Adams]

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?"

[John Adams]

The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?"

[John Adams]

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

[John Adams

"What havoc has been made of books through every century of the Christian era? Where are fifty gospels, condemned as spurious by the bull of Pope Gelasius? Where are the forty wagon-loads of Hebrew manuscripts burned in France, by order of another pope, because suspected of heresy? Remember the 'index expurgatorius', the inquisition, the stake, the axe, the halter and the guillotine."

[John Adams]

"The priesthood have, in all ancient nations, nearly monopolized learning. And ever since the Reformation, when or where has existed a Protestant or dissenting sect who would tolerate A FREE INQUIRY? The blackest billingsgate, the most ungentlemanly insolence, the most yahooish brutality, is patiently endured, countenanced, propagated, and applauded. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of a sect, though capable of the clearest proof, and you will find you have disturbed a nest, and the hornets will swarm about your eyes and hand, and fly into your face and eyes."

[John Adams]

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, -- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-- and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religous opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

[John Adams]

Perhaps one could see my dilemma in thinking John Adams did not make that quote of Iron’s. After reading the quote in its entirety, I suppose I realized the correct context that it was in. I could not remember John Adams being such a religious man. It seems that was the base of my confusion.

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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2003, 05:38:25 PM »
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So I did a quick search on Amazon... put in "Hillary Clinton"Got 2538 records


Even I didn't know there was that many books written describing her evil and vicious ways.

Good going MT.


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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2003, 07:40:58 PM »
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your right Iron.... Im wrong on all accounts except you being a waste of time...

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Apology accepted, guess you might wanna do at least a modicum of research before telling someone they are wrong and then pulling quotes outta yer ass.
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