Author Topic: Begging for more ammo load options (Read 2347 times)

F4UDOA · « **on:** November 12, 2003, 04:29:31 PM »

Gents,

It would be much better I believe from a player point of view to have the ability to load less ammo on takeoff when flying the likes of the F4U, F6F, P-47 or P-38.

The loadouts are huge and if you are flying base defense (especially fleet defense you need to take 50% fuel at least to climb but your ammo weights you down.

Two big reasons

1. It takes time and you ruin your gunnery stats shooting your ammo off on the runway. Plus the killshooter might get you if someone else takes off.

2. There are no extra points for getting shot down with 2400rounds of 50cal ammo on board.

Thanks

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2003, 07:55:53 PM »

Have you checked the P-38 lately? It can take 150 rounds for the 20mm cannon and 500 rounds for each 50 cal or it can take 150 rounds for the 20mm cannon and 200 rounds for each 50 cal.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #2 on:** November 12, 2003, 08:26:39 PM »

Actually I hadn't noticed.

I do know that the F4U and F6F give you no options at all for ammo load.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #3 on:** November 12, 2003, 08:53:38 PM »

The low-ammo load for the P38 is perfect. I only ever take the full load if I'm headed to a target rich area a long way from home. The extra rounds can come in handy for jabo runs.

moot · « **Reply #4 on:** November 12, 2003, 09:01:08 PM »

the A5 had an MG less option, it would be nice to be able to fly without the flea shooters.

Octavius · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2003, 01:40:00 AM »

What moot said. The no-MG option would be nice. Also, the Bf110's rear ammo takes a while to fire off.

More weapon and ammo options are a definite PLUS.

I've suggested before a slider type configuration. Want 43% cannons/MGs/whatever? Easily asjustable. Either in percentages or bullet count... would be a great addition.

The same for fuel selection. 25, 50, 75, and 100% are too large of a "chunk" of fuel. A slider would be excellent. Even further customizable individual fuel TANKS. I would crap my pants twice if this feature was implemented. I hate waiting to burn the Fuselage tanks in P40s. C.205 would also benefit. I'd leave the wing tanks empty and take 100% main/aux instead.

Octavius · « **Reply #6 on:** November 14, 2003, 03:31:50 PM »

PUNT!

Reschke · « **Reply #7 on:** November 14, 2003, 03:52:05 PM »

Please a different ammunition and fuel layout system. I would like to be able to fill up certain fuel tanks but leave others alone if possible. Especially in the F4U.

Halo · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2003, 06:33:04 PM »

Great idea to have sliders for ammo and fuel loads ... but would be best if they conform to historical options.

Did many fighters in real life ever fly missions with less than full ammo loads? Doesn't seem as likely as varied fuel loads depending on the distance required.

Along this line, what about adding the option for bombers to take off without carrying any bombs? They wouldn't load bombs if going on recon, ferry, or (cough cough) fighter bait missions.

moot · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2003, 02:38:57 AM »

I remember hearing from someone in the inner LW circles that the 152 wing tanks were not filled (not left inside? they were rubber sacks apparently) for less than long range flights.
Gondolas were discarded from armament by most 109 pilots, I also hear. I heard once (don't remember how credible the source) that some (again LW) pilots did no load MGs.. this one is odd tho, considering every anecdote I've heard regarded even (in AH proportions) small caliber MGs like 7.7mm respectable weapons.

Octavius · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2004, 04:50:28 PM »

punt!

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2004, 06:27:45 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Ecliptik
The low-ammo load for the P38 is perfect. I only ever take the full load if I'm headed to a target rich area a long way from home. The extra rounds can come in handy for jabo runs.

The P-38 has been my exclusive ride in AH and I've never seen any significant performance gain by taking the lower ammo load out. Every WW2 P-38 pilot story that I've read where they mention what their ammo load out was, they always seemed to take the full ammo load. I've even asked a couple of old P-38 pilots (Art Mosier of the 479th FG and Earl (P-47, P-38 and P-39 pilot)) about this and they both said they always took off with the full ammo load.

ack-ack

Batz · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2004, 08:20:01 PM »

All basic load outs should be standard combat loads. Then work up from there. Things like 50% fuel and 50% ammo are just silly. No plane would sit on the flight line half loaded with fuel and ammo.

Since we are using more larger maps the fuel mod ought to be set to 1 as well.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2004, 11:34:14 PM »

Batz,

That is not true at all. Fighter planes (especially American Big Iron) would have different loadouts for different Missions.

The F4U-1 had an interceptor loadout with limited fuel and ammo and carried loads as heavy as 17,000LBS gross.

FYI, Carriers would always have aircraft ready to scramble as would any forward airbase. Also the heaviest option in AH now is 15,300LBS.

Wilbus · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2004, 07:18:24 AM »