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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2003, 10:25:03 AM »
Curval, my brother is gay and my parents thought he would pass thru it like a phase.  He's a great guy, almost identical to the guy from Will n Grace as far as demanor and such

He's always had a lot of female friends who are model-types and one weekend they were all showing off their gorgeous nipple piercings....eeesh...if that couldnt make him change teams, nothing will !  (I was dying! Come to me, ladies!)

When I go see him, he takes me to his hangouts where his friends go...no one has ever bugged me and its always been a good time.

Like the movie said, same guy...just a different kind of porn  :)

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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2003, 10:25:04 AM »
lepaul... that's funny... my current girlfriend... when she is in a mean mood... will tell me that whatever girl I am starring at has "an adams apple".   We watched a tv show tho where half were and half weren't and neither one of us did that great in figuring out which was which.   We looked up a site for them on the internet and I feel a lot better about being fooled... they are pretty much women with... well...  

ya gotta have a sense of humor to get through life.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2003, 10:28:40 AM »
curval... sorry... he "was gay" till he died.   No one knew about aids back then.   Not a very good thing to watch someone die of... but then... dying is rarely a pleasant thing.

lepaul... yep, that was my experiance.   My brother or I would tell his freinds that I was straight and they would not hit on me... well... not agressively..   They would still joke around and all but.... no big deal.   I have never felt threatened by gay people but I don't want to see em lip locking or worse.   I think as humans we empathize (yes liberals, even lazs empathizes) and we don't like to put ourselves in that mental picture if we are straight.   Other than that.... they are interesting to be around in small doses.   They tend to be *****y and emotional tho in large doses.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2003, 10:30:49 AM »
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I think these guys deserve a cut of the money, don't you?

This mindset is why I have a problem with these lawsuits.

We are not communists.  There is no requirement that there be a 100% equal distribution of all wealth.  Tell me, if you get on The Price Is Right and win $5000 in prizes, then you find out that the episode got really good ratings and that the show producers made a lot of money, would you go back and demand that they give you more prizes?

If you want 100% control over every aspect of how your will be presented on TV, then buy commercial time and film your own ad.  If you're not rich enough to do that but you still want that control, then don't go on somebody elses TV show.  If you're too stupid to understand that you're playing in someone elses world, and that they have a financial incentive to make things 'wacky', then don't reproduce.
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2003, 11:23:09 AM »
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They tend to be *****y and emotional tho in large doses.
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Much like the AH community :)

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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2003, 11:38:46 AM »
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curval... sorry... he "was gay" till he died.   No one knew about aids back then.   Not a very good thing to watch someone die of... but then... dying is rarely a pleasant thing.


Sorry to hear that man.:(
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2003, 11:40:25 AM »
There is a simple way to tell a woman from a man.

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MEN and women blink differently when startled. That simple and well-established observation has led Qazi Rahman of the University of East London, in England, and his colleagues to evidence supporting the idea that homosexuality is a characteristic which people are born with, rather than one they acquire as they grow up. The team's research, just published in Behavioral Neuroscience, shows that lesbians blink like heterosexual men. That, in turn, suggests that the part of their brain that controls this reflex has been masculinised in the womb.

Anyone who is startled by an unexpected noise tends to blink. If, however, the startling noise is preceded by a quieter sound, this blink is not so vigorous as it would otherwise have been. It is this lack of vigour which differs between the sexes. Men blink less vigorously than women when primed in this way.

In the latter case, as compared with the former, straight men had blinks that were 40% less vigorous. In the case of straight women the drop was 13%. Lesbians dropped 33% which, statistically, made them more similar to straight men than straight women. Gay men were also intermediate, although in their case the difference was not statistically significant.


Dyed in the womb

 So, 40% - straight or gay man, 33% - a lesbian, 13% - a woman.

 There may even be a market for simple devices or just software that would measure such things inobtrusively.

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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2003, 11:41:32 AM »
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Curval, my brother is gay and my parents thought he would pass thru it like a phase.  He's a great guy, almost identical to the guy from Will n Grace as far as demanor and such

He's always had a lot of female friends who are model-types and one weekend they were all showing off their gorgeous nipple piercings....eeesh...if that couldnt make him change teams, nothing will !  (I was dying! Come to me, ladies!)

When I go see him, he takes me to his hangouts where his friends go...no one has ever bugged me and its always been a good time.

Like the movie said, same guy...just a different kind of porn  :)


How did your folks take it?  The question applies to lazs too.

I have two sons.  If either of them, or both of them, turn out to be gay I'm not sure how I'd react.  Obviously I'd still love them...but it would be...I dunno...weird.
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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2003, 12:08:57 PM »
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Cameras filmed the men attempting to woo Miriam, including scenes of them kissing and fondling her.


That's why I wouldn't want to appear on reality tv shows.  It requires too much faith in the producers to do what you expect them to do - be honest with you and give you a reasonable level of expectations.  That doesn't happen with reality tv shows.  Even the biggest reality show - "Survivor" - manipulates "the game" to achieve a desired reaction.

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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2003, 12:21:40 PM »
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There is a simple way to tell a woman from a man.


Take your right (or left) hand... fingers spread and slightly clawed... swing the  hand towards the other person's crotch... take a firm grip and squeeze....feel through their clothing. if  external genitalia is present IT is a male.

This is called the GENDER CHECK MANUEVER.

Be prepared to duck and receive a volley of blows... or warmly greated with an embrace...

You choice of what to do in the later circumstance and based up the results of the maneuver.

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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2003, 12:23:29 PM »
Gay people are fine with me.  It's the ridiculously obnoxious types you see in those gay pride parades irritate the crap outta me.  The wife has a very good gay friend (male), one of those guys who decided to come out of the closet after he'd been married a number of years.  Can't say I appreciate those who put thier kids through that, gay men or women.  Anyway... took me awhile to figure out they are just people with a different way of going bout life.

Oh lol, I still gotta be careful what I say around this guy.... him and the wife were having a "***** session" (lol) while I was playing Aces High one night... someone shot me down and I scream "YOU FU**ING studmuffinGOT!" at the top of my lungs.  That was embarrasing.
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2003, 12:28:46 PM »
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How did your folks take it?  The question applies to lazs too.

I have two sons.  If either of them, or both of them, turn out to be gay I'm not sure how I'd react.  Obviously I'd still love them...but it would be...I dunno...weird.


Ha ha, I look back at it and laugh...I mean, my Dad was the assistant principal of the school we went to, and a high ranking officer/commander at the local Air Guard base (Lt Col).  Having one of your kids go pink wasnt easy.  At first, they thought it was a phase.  I pointed out the kid was the president of the Santa Barbara fan club (recall the soap?) and was an active Madonna fan, coat and all (From "Whose that Girl").

I pretty much kept out of it, as my folks tell me now, I was very easy to raise.  My brother was the rebel.  He'd go out and come back whenever.  Where he went, we didnt know...just that he hung out with a bunch of the "grunge" kids who kinda did their own thing.  Not trouble makers, just a lil off...all very intelligent kids...National Honor Society kids...but just not the normal preppy types you'd expect.

How they took it, I dont know.  They did do the counseling thing and made some headway there.  They tried really hard to understand the kid, and my brother realized they werent real sure how to handle him either.  So while the relationship seemed strained and awkward, they did talk a lot and give him that extra space he felt he needed.

My brother has always been a bit of a ditz...had he been born a girl, I'm certain he'd be Jessica Simpson.  He's a lot of fun, the life of the party, very smart...but lacks a bit in the common sense, like most super bright people do.

I don't know how well that answers your question, Curval.  Yea, its all different, but as time has gone on, its just how things are.  I still love the kid and am always worried when you read of hate crimes and such...people that just cant accept others as they are.  It took me a while to fully accept and understand it
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2003, 01:46:22 PM »
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This mindset is why I have a problem with these lawsuits.

We are not communists.  There is no requirement that there be a 100% equal distribution of all wealth.  Tell me, if you get on The Price Is Right and win $5000 in prizes, then you find out that the episode got really good ratings and that the show producers made a lot of money, would you go back and demand that they give you more prizes?

If you want 100% control over every aspect of how your will be presented on TV, then buy commercial time and film your own ad.  If you're not rich enough to do that but you still want that control, then don't go on somebody elses TV show.  If you're too stupid to understand that you're playing in someone elses world, and that they have a financial incentive to make things 'wacky', then don't reproduce.

ok, take that quote out, the fact still remains: these guys did you wrong, now are you gonna do something about it, or sit there like a little biotch? you can't kill'em, you can't fight'em so what do you do?

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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2003, 01:48:55 PM »
Curval...My parents took it very well I think... I was startled but surprised at how little it affected me and our relationship.   My folks cared for him in their home the last year of his life...  I visited when I could, every weekend about and it was an extremely unpleasant wasting way to die.   It must have been hard on the folks..  My brother never complained much and allways told us he would recover even when it was apparent he wouldn't.   I have watched straight men die with much less dignity with far easier deaths.  

I have a feeling that you would take it very well if for some reason a loved one turned out to be gay.

The problem is as some say... I told him that i refused to quit useing words like studmuffingot unless it really was a big deal to him... it wasn't.    The biggest problem was some of my friends who were unable to deal with it.    I actually had to go to blows with a couple of people over the whole silly thing.   Nowdays I don't think it is such a big deal maybe tho...  In any case... I have never shyied from the opportunity to make stupid people feel stupid so it was no big deal for me.   Sometimes being insensitive has it's advantages.... I didn't really look for answers or question the whole thing I just accepted it and looked at it like just another strange thing about humans.   Was more interesting than anything else.
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2003, 01:53:59 PM »
Thanks, both of you.

Interesting...it is something I genuinely don't want to have to deal with, but the possibilty does exist I suppose.
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