Originally posted by baders
Frustrated..........yep, misguided...............no.
As a long time pilot i've seen a few cowboys that thought they were bullet proof. Quite a few come unstuck at some stage..............sadly, taking other people with them 
Get a clue, read the PA 28 Pilots Operating Manual. Its not something you scribble in when you can't find any paper on board 
I would second that. Most of the pilots I knew who got killed had it coming for a long time. The fact that everyone around them knew it would happen to them one day changed nothing. To be fair to m1a389 he at least asked first.
My answer is like the others, don't do it in the PA28. You will probably die. Ten years from now with hundreds of aerobatic hours under your belt you could probably do it in a Warrior maintaining 1g while pouring a cup of coffee like Bob Hoover. Until then get some professional aerobatic instruction in an aircraft certified for aerobatics. I flew in a Pitts some time ago. It really is the most fun you can have with your clothes on! But it was also painful and disorientating.
I once flew aerobatics with a guy who was a good stick in a non Aerobat 152. It was fun but in the end I feigned airsickness to make him stop as I feared he might rip the tail off and we end up at the bottom of smoking hole somewhere in rural West Tennessee.
I also saw a 152 where where someone had actually cracked the spar. I hate to think how many g's were pulled to do that. Most likely he fell out of a roll and pulled like hell to recover.
I won't take odds on your fate for the first 100 hours. Usually pilots are safe enough until then. At 100 hours pilots have just enough experience to think they're experienced but not enough to realise they know nothing. My hairiest moments came around the 100 hour mark, including being grounded by the chief instructor for an infraction of the rules.
All pilots do stupid things with aeroplanes at some point in their lives. Most live to tell the tale. I personally knew 4 who didn't and watched as another augered in front of me.
Of all the aircraft I flew 7 crashed later, some fatally and mostly because the pilot did something stupid. 1 low flying engine failure, 2 stall spins, 2 runway flypasts gone wrong, 1 fuel exhaustion and 1 mid air with an RAF jet which to be fair was not his fault.
Quite a record really:eek:
