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Offline Rude

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« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2003, 08:31:01 AM »
One last time....maps which allow ALL players to have fun are good....one's that don't, are not as good.

What about the above do you not understand or disagree with Mini?

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« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2003, 08:41:47 AM »
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Oh... I know what you'd have people believe sax.  It's pretty damn apparent.

I'm sorry that your country happened to be having its bellybutton handed to it.  It happens.  As a result... so do threads like this.

MiniD


Mini:)Wrong--mostly anyways.

I really could care less if I die 50 times in a row or if the Knits are getting there butts kicked every nite.
What does irratate me is the lack of gas to go to a fite in my choice of plane.
As far as strat guys , hey it's there money and they can do what they like.
However if 10 guys determined to knock out fuel on a maps front line bases ruin that for me---and the old players like lazs ,--- the guys that supported this game from beta---don't wanna come out and fly---well thats bad for the game and HTC should make some changes.
On Festers map the strat guys can have at it on 75% of the front line bases and do there thing and enjoy.
That leaves a couple of bases for furballers , nobody steps on anybodys toes--all is good and fine:)
So Mini you can argue with me till your blue in the face --or vise versa---or you can pick apart my posts and analyse however ya want--fact remains that fuel porking is bad for the furballers soul and we i'm sure we make up at least 50% of the player base:)

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« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2003, 08:50:40 AM »
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nb... you are good at pushing computer map textures around... probly personality is not a subject you should talk about tho... I could sell ya one cheap tho if you're interested.
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« Reply #48 on: November 21, 2003, 08:52:37 AM »
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Tonite on Mindano the fuel was porked to 25 along the whole front--couple a rear bases as well.

You ruined the whole evening for the furball dweebs [/B]


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« Reply #49 on: November 21, 2003, 09:22:12 AM »
Right sax... except one is the cause of the other... something you seem entirely unable to comprehend.  I mean... who cares if you don't feel you should have to do anything to stop it.

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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2003, 09:25:52 AM »
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then how come this debate keeps coming up???for every 1 succesfull raid on a proper strat target theres probably a whole lot more that dont make it...and just how far can you get on 25% fuel??? most furballs are in the middle of the sector and im pretty sure you can get that far and have at least 5 more minutes of fuel left....wich is plenty...


Of course your speculations arise from many hours of furballing in the MA ... right ?
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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2003, 09:35:21 AM »
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Right sax... except one is the cause of the other... something you seem entirely unable to comprehend.  I mean... who cares if you don't feel you should have to do anything to stop it.

MiniD


Part of the problem is that it is far easier to "pork" than "prevent" and/or "rebuild".

I love base defense ... and when a flight of 12K-15K typhoons, or P-38s, or P-51s come zooming into a field, all its takes is just a couple to slip thru the defense and the fuel is porked.

Way to simple compared to the effort to stop it. Thats the root problem.
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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2003, 10:18:53 AM »
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And the weenies that log off, who cares, its the ones that switch countries that are the gayest, low down, always have to have an advantage, high alt 25k or better, couldnt hit the broad side of a barn, mother humper, granmother humpin, sister,  father, brother humpin, dirty cheese smellin, puss sack, douch bag SOBs of the game.


Actually, I thought most ppl switch countries to help the team that has the *least* numbers, netrek-style.  Is this not the case?

If not, it might be a good idea to implement the netrek-style entrance protocol, meaning you automatically join the country with the least numbers when you log on, except for designated squad times.  And perhaps even squads as a whole can be subject to this rule as well.

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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2003, 11:10:33 AM »
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Actually, I thought most ppl switch countries to help the team that has the *least* numbers, netrek-style. Is this not the case?


Nope not the case.  What is netrek?

A few may switch to the country with the lower numbers, but they are far and away out numbered by the ones that switch to the country with the numbers.

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If not, it might be a good idea to implement the netrek-style entrance protocol, meaning you automatically join the country with the least numbers when you log on.


How could that work.  The game would decide what country you belong to every time you log in.  That would suck, no country loyalty no squad loyalty blahhhh.  I would rather the gangbangs.  I dont care about the resets just the targets so its not so bad for me.  

I just hate the unloyal opportunistic bastiges that change coutries as much as their minds.  Thats just me tho.

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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2003, 12:33:32 PM »
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Right sax... except one is the cause of the other... something you seem entirely unable to comprehend.  I mean... who cares if you don't feel you should have to do anything to stop it.

MiniD

Well at least we are on equal ground here Mini--would seem both of us are having trouble with comprehention:)

Thx for the replyJackal--first time for me--I am now officially one of the BBS weenies:)

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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2003, 01:12:56 PM »
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A few may switch to the country with the lower numbers, but they are far and away out numbered by the ones that switch to the country with the numbers.


Well.  That's pretty incredibly lame.

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no country loyalty


Who cares...  Actually, "country" loyalties just make the game unnecessarily vitriolic.  Kind of like the axis vs allies thing did in WB.  It fuels nonsensical nationalistic hatred which has no benefit, and really should have no place in this game.  Best to have a netrek-like attitude, where you can join the feds or the roms or whatever, whichever has less players, and sometimes you play with your friends and sometimes you play against.  That fosters both friendship *and* respect/civility.  It also fosters growth and learning, since there are no artificial political hangups.

Oh yeah...more about netrek at www.netrek.org.  This game has been around a very long time, like more than 15 years I think.  Started in the unix world.  It is a pretty interesting online game of strategy and tactics.

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no squad loyalty


Yes, this factor is important.  Not "loyalty" per se, but squad operations are an important part of the game.  Hence my suggestion that squad members be allowed to join the country that the rest of the squad is on, at designated times.  Each squad might have a different designated time slot.  So the first squad member to log in would be limited to the country with the least number of players, but subsequent squad logins during the timeslot have a choice between the country with least numbers, and the country which the first squaddie joined.

I think this is an ideal solution.

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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2003, 01:25:22 PM »
Hmmmm Net Trek maybe ill check it out.


As far as

"Actually, "country" loyalties just make the game unnecessarily vitriolic. Kind of like the axis vs allies thing did in WB. It fuels nonsensical nationalistic hatred which has no benefit, and really should have no place in this game."

Maybe but I think people realize this is a game.  I dont hate the other countries, but we are fighting each other.  No real politics in this game other than strat vs fur guys lol.  I probably wouldnt fly if they made the switch you are suggesting.  I like the guys in my country, I like finding some of the same guys when I log on.  I can predict some of them and we can watch each others 6s.  Also when I log on there are always some of my squad on so I would not like to be randomly assigned to a country.

Different Stokes I guess

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« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2003, 04:54:51 PM »
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Thx for the replyJackal--first time for me--I am now officially one of the BBS weenies:)


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« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2003, 08:01:03 PM »
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Who cares...  Actually, "country" loyalties just make the game unnecessarily vitriolic.  Kind of like the axis vs allies thing did in WB.  It fuels nonsensical nationalistic hatred which has no benefit, and really should have no place in this game.  Best to have a netrek-like attitude, where you can join the feds or the roms or whatever, whichever has less players, and sometimes you play with your friends and sometimes you play against.  That fosters both friendship *and* respect/civility.  It also fosters growth and learning, since there are no artificial political hangups.


Artificial political hangups:confused: . Now THAT is lame. Fostering growth and learning :confused: .  What do you want to play, an air combat simulation or Barney Does War? Yah...we can all fly purple planes, give each other hugs and sing cute lil songs.   Friendship, respect and civility are all earned here. Can't we all just get along??? Oh my GAWD...I think I'm gonna puke!!! In the immortal words of Dok Gonzo...."The Hate is good. Feel the Hate." :D
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« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2003, 08:09:12 PM »
Yeah.  MENSA called.  The news is not good, my friend.