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Offline Wolfala

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« on: November 20, 2003, 02:59:57 AM »
For most people, AAR's consist of about 15 seconds of tension followed by a 2 minute refractory period. And like sex, it has its eb's and flows.

However, every now and again one fly’s a mission that has you wake up at night with the business end of a 109 screaming at you head long, and you get the motivation to write.

The 4 Wing: 416 Lynx & 441 Silver Fox proudly present:

                             The HQ Raid From Hell


It was not overkill; it was rather compact and well thoughtout. Gball had assembled 7 flights of B17's, 6 P-51's and my flight of 4 P-38's to take a 100 mile tour into Bishland.

The first 20 minutes were pretty quiet, the little friends got up to altitude in short order and set cruise power waiting for the bombers to reach their final cruising altitude. We set out to the south of the western most portion of rook held territory to a mostly over water route that intersected with a patrolling CV to help mask our approach. It also helped that the CV reacted as a radar picket to any incoming interceptors.

The Buff's assembled in a tight box, about 500 ft deep slightly over 20,000. The 51's at 25,000 and the P38's somewhere in-between. About 50 miles from Bish held territory our hearts jumped collectively as our radar picket showed 4 bish 262's lead by the infamous Lazarus.

The fighter's did their best to fend off the 262's but the 100 mph + speed advantage was much to cope with. The 262's ran in on the formation - sometimes several at a time: NONE MADE IT THROUGH. Morpheus took minor damage to one of his drones, but all bombers were intact.

Within 2 minutes of their downing a 4 pack of 109's came at us from 30,000 ft the bombers downed 3 of them, either myself or 1 of the P51's downed the last 1. The 109 got in close behind 1 o the flights and annihilated it.

It was quiet a little past feet dry and we were no more then 15 miles from the bish HQ when the **** hit the fan. We were met, by what historians would no doubt consider the entire LW compliment of 163's during world war 2.

I **** you not - there were more then 20 of them. The bomber's fared well against the 163's. Gball's group  shot down 4 of them. Other bomber's had similar luck. As we got closer, 2 of the groups pickled their bombs with 1 landing on target.

I didn't survive, but more because of a pilot wound then being gang'd by 5 163's plus a group of 109's. And despite it being a suicide run, the feeling that you get when you see dozens of 163's off your nose with only your wits to get you though, it far outweighs any amount of channel 1 trolling and smack talking.

Folks

Wolfala


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Offline mora

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2003, 04:49:33 AM »
If you compare this AAR to actual combat stories, one might draw a conclusion about AH bomber gun modelling.

Nice AAR btw!

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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2003, 04:53:45 AM »
Nice Read
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Offline GScholz

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2003, 04:59:38 AM »
Nice read! (yes the bomber gunnery is complete BS).
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2003, 05:08:22 AM »
fyi

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Testing done by the USAAF found that the bullet pattern from a B-17 during ground testing had the following results for 12 rounds to 600yds:

ball turret > dia. 15' - 8.3mils
upper turret > dia. 21' - 11.7mils
chin turret > dia. 23' - 12.6 mils
waist(closed) dia. 26' - 14.3mils
side nose > dia. 34' - 18.7mils
tail turret > dia 45' - 25mils

For the B-24 it was:

ball turret > dia. 15' - 8.3mils
upper turret > dia. 20' - 11.2mils
nose turret > dia. 23' - 12.9mils (Emerson)
nose turret > dia. 35' - 19.3mils (Motor Prod.)
waist(closed) dia. 23' - 12.9mils
waist(open) dia. 63' - 35.6mils
tail turret > dia 35' - 19.3mils

Attacks in reference to azimuth direction only.

B-17 - 3585 attacks, 441 hits (12.3%)

clock position - % of # of attacks - % hits

1 - 12.5 - 9.3
2 - 5.9 - 6.7
3 - 4.5 - 3.9
4 - 5.7 - 4.0
5 - 9.0 - 9.1
6 - 20.7 - 15.6
7 - 8.9 - 6.6
8 - 3.8 - 2.7
9 - 3.9 - 2.9
10 - 3.7 - 3.9
11 - 10.4 - 10.3
12 - 20.2 - 15.6

taken from: "Gunner" ISBN 1-55046-332-2

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2003, 08:04:54 AM »
thats what happens when you....huh.....milkrun our HQ:rofl

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2003, 09:49:38 PM »
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a 100 mile tour into Bishland.



I know we're all the same, but it was Knightland.

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as our radar picket showed 4 bish 262's


Was just me and Tarmac that I knew of. Coulda been others though.

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NONE MADE IT THROUGH.


Hey, I landed it:D    First pass I missed horribly and had my eng. oil hit on both engines. I'm not sure if it was the high p51 that was diving on me, or dozens of .50's from the B17's firing at me that did it, but nice shooting either way. Tarmac faired a little better, but had to nurse it back home shortly after.

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We were met, by what historians would no doubt consider the entire LW compliment of 163's during world war 2.



Lol, it was a pretty impressive response. Kamori seperated me from my right wing on my first pass. I re-upped as soon as I could and managed to land 5 with only my right wing cannon damaged. Don't remember 4 of them, but I know one was Kamori. Third time's a charm:D


Overall was a damn good time. to all that were up there.



And when the hell did I become infamous?:eek:

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2003, 10:35:08 PM »
Does that mean I'm Lazerus's infamous stooge?  Sidekick?  Accomplice?  Beeyoch?

My 262 made it home ok too; with one smoking engine.  The 163 I upped after that was not so lucky.  :)

Fun raid though.  Escorts and 25k alt make it a real pain to take down buffs.  The rooks hitting our HQ at the same time didn't help either.