Author Topic: Tracers Off = More damage? (Read 1923 times)

Engine · « **on:** November 20, 2003, 12:49:34 PM »

Forgot the answer to this. Anyone know?

WldThing · « **Reply #1 on:** November 20, 2003, 12:52:57 PM »

Ive had tracers off for a couple months, nothing different IMO.

OIO · « **Reply #2 on:** November 20, 2003, 05:41:25 PM »

not more damage. its the target doing less evasives.

laz · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2003, 06:47:11 PM »

tracers off = feces in panties

NHattila · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2003, 07:35:30 PM »

Heya lazer, how ya doing bud? you think your gonna make a comeback?

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2003, 08:27:32 AM »

Turning tracers off forces aiming discipline. You'll tend to pick better shots and get in closer before opening fire. This means more shots on target and more damage done relatively speaking.

It's not that the guns become more lethal when you turn the tracers off; you become more lethal.

-- Todd/Leviathn

gofaster · « **Reply #6 on:** November 21, 2003, 12:17:57 PM »

Personally, I find tracers distracting for shooting except in the Ostwind and M-16, particularly at night.

zroostr · « **Reply #7 on:** November 21, 2003, 12:58:26 PM »

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Originally posted by OIO
not more damage. its the target doing less evasives.

to me that doesnt equate since if the target doesnt have tracers turned off he's still gonna see em while you are the one who wont. or am i wrong in that guess? i dont know since i have tracers on and i see tracers all the time.

fuzeman · « **Reply #8 on:** November 21, 2003, 01:09:47 PM »

Not positive but here are my two cents.
In real life if you didn't have tracers the spots they would take would be filled with real bullets so technically no tracers would do more damage because you have more real bullets to shoot.
In AH I imagine the rounds you have are all real bullets and tracers on or off is just a setting and doesn't take up real bullet space.
Does that make sense?

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #9 on:** November 21, 2003, 02:06:11 PM »

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Originally posted by zroostr
to me that doesnt equate since if the target doesnt have tracers turned off he's still gonna see em while you are the one who wont. or am i wrong in that guess? i dont know since i have tracers on and i see tracers all the time.

Not true. Enemy planes won't see your tracers if you turned them off in your setup. That said, I don't believe a lack of manuevering makes turning off tracers more lethal; when opponents think you have a firing solution, tracers or not, they're going to take evasive actions.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Sikboy · « **Reply #10 on:** November 21, 2003, 02:13:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
when opponents think you have a firing solution, tracers or not, they're going to take evasive actions.

-- Todd/Leviathn

If you're a cherry picker like me, tracers just give you away before you pounce. so in some cases OIO is 100% correct. Not everyone has Todd's 194 eyes (his head is really nothing but a bunch of eyes).

-Sik

zroostr · « **Reply #11 on:** November 21, 2003, 02:23:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Not true. Enemy planes won't see your tracers if you turned them off in your setup.

ok i didnt know that. come to think of it though, i've been pierced seemingly out of no where a few times and saw nothing. never thought about it but it must be so.

dang them no tracer killers

OIO · « **Reply #12 on:** November 21, 2003, 04:35:28 PM »

case in point:

in my p38, tracers on, I jump someone from low left 6 (blind spot). Lets say rubber bullets make my first hits not damage anything.

From the victim's view: Hes flying level and all the sudden *pingpingping* and sees a few tracers fly from under his right wing flying away from him at his 1 oc. This pilot instantly knows im under him and to his left from just seeing the tracers and takes evasive action..

If there were no tracers, the victim would hear the pings, not see any tracers... and they will either jink a bit while they scan their views (giving me more time to shoot) or try a hard turn or split-s (which, them not knowing where i am, would very likely make them fly into my sights).

Not to mention the oh so many times im flying autolevel and see tracers zip by my cockpit and manage to evade before getting hit..all because the other guy couldnt shoot.. but if he had no tracers he couldve hosed me and i wouldnt know until i actually got hit.

laz · « **Reply #13 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:58:32 PM »

Yeah, in like a few weeks.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2003, 12:00:46 AM »

tracers off make things more fun IMO