Author Topic: Iron works (Read 1672 times)

Vermillion · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2003, 07:33:28 AM »

Amazing, simply amazing !

I was reading "When Thunder Rolled", the other night, by Ed Rasimus (famous F-105, and later a F-4 pilot) about some damage a F-105D took on a mission. Evidently when the pilot jettisoned his wing tanks, one flew back and hit the horizontal stabilizer. Completely removing it from the plane. The pilot didn't realize the extent of his damage, adjusted the trim to max, and flew the plane home to Tahkli and successfully landed the plane.

loser · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2003, 07:51:50 AM »

Even more amazing at second glance when I noticed the right horizontal stabilizer and part of the fuselage are missing as well.

AKCasca · « **Reply #3 on:** November 21, 2003, 08:22:23 AM »

I have seen this before but never found a history on the picture. Did they manage to land/ditch/bail?

Iron plane, and even tougher MoFo's in it.

frank3 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2003, 08:57:52 AM »

Was this the only survivor out of 6 others? Was a famous raid!

Stringer · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:42:48 AM »

Look at the pilot fighting to hold that baby in the air!

That has to be one helluva task!

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:52:37 AM »

from the site where I got it
"Great Avenger pic, Sky Chimp. IIRC, that aircraft was flown by a pilot attacking the radio complex on Chichi Jima. He was hit, went into a spin, and had his crew bail out. As he unbuckled and prepared to jump himself, the aircraft reentered stable flight, so he strapped back in and flew it home.

Unfortunately, the aircrew taken prisoner did not survive captivity. Many of the aircrew captives on that island were beheaded and eaten by the Japanese. American liver was regard as a special delicacy by some of the Japanese officers. Some aircrew prisoners were partially dismembered for their thigh flesh, then thrown half-alive into a ditch so that their vital organs would remain fresh for the next evening's repast.

I'm not making this up.
"
Its the same island where Bush was shot down. I guess the Japs had gotten tired of fish and rice.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #7 on:** November 21, 2003, 10:58:02 AM »

Hey, I landed a P38 like that in AH once.

Had half the left wing blown off (most of the wing past the left engine). Normally I've found this is effectively lethal, because while the plane will remain flyable while fully trimmed at high speeds with consistent aileron input, at lower speeds when trying to land, the difference in lift between the complete wing and the half-wing is too much to overcome even with full aileron and rudder, and you'll roll over and crash.

But I also had my right flap shot off. Having only the left flap, extending it balanced lift and I landed as smoothly as if undamaged.

Sometimes more is less when it comes to damage, I suppose.

Flyboy · « **Reply #8 on:** November 21, 2003, 01:56:34 PM »

i think ilanded allmost every fighter plane in the game while missing half a wing.

i saw that picture before im sure. still amazing though

i saw somewhere a picture of a IAF mustang wing with a huge hole in it after a fight with a Mig 17. the mustang pilot mannaged to land. (any idea what guns did the MIG17 carried? the hole was HUGE)

allso a picture of a IAF F15 that mannaged to land after a mid air collision with a skyhawk while training took his ENTIRE wing. the pilot was unawere of the amount of dammage and landed the plane.

i will look for the pictures.

Widewing · « **Reply #9 on:** November 21, 2003, 02:10:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Vermillion
Amazing, simply amazing !

I was reading "When Thunder Rolled", the other night, by Ed Rasimus (famous F-105, and later a F-4 pilot) about some damage a F-105D took on a mission. Evidently when the pilot jettisoned his wing tanks, one flew back and hit the horizontal stabilizer. Completely removing it from the plane. The pilot didn't realize the extent of his damage, adjusted the trim to max, and flew the plane home to Tahkli and successfully landed the plane.

Should you be interested in reaching Ed, drop me a line, I have his e-mail address. Or, he can be found lurking on USENET's rec.aviation.military

My regards,

Widewing

HoHun · « **Reply #10 on:** November 21, 2003, 03:51:28 PM »

Hi Flyboy,

>(any idea what guns did the MIG17 carried? the hole was HUGE)

Usually, 1 x 37 mm N-37D with 40 rounds and 2 x 23 mm NR-23 with 80 rounds each.

The radar-equipped MiG-17PF had armament reduced to 3 x 23 mm NR-23.

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

Flyboy · « **Reply #11 on:** November 21, 2003, 04:07:06 PM »

thanks henning it was a 37mm shell that hit the mustang wing

i did found some pictures of the F15:

pretty amazing

Pongo · « **Reply #12 on:** November 21, 2003, 04:43:43 PM »

I had always been of the opinion that the F15 probably had a ground accident and they just said that it was mid air and landed for a joke.

Hades55 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:23:53 PM »

Battle Damaged B-17's

Its the 3d time i post it, but i post it again for the new ones.
It worth it.....
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/contents.htm

Flyboy · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2003, 04:25:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
I had always been of the opinion that the F15 probably had a ground accident and they just said that it was mid air and landed for a joke.

Yea and the skyhawk who cought fire and exploded mid-air was from ?