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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2003, 10:34:05 AM »
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6 FBI marksmen tried to shoot at a movin target in the time alotted.....none succeeded.....If i was you....I'd go whine


They had a computer animation in the frontline show run realtime and to scale. Oswald had practiced with that rifle regularly. When in the marines he qualified as a "sharpshooter".

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Just days before the assassination, there was another sighting. A man resembling Oswald was seen target practicing. He almost started a fight when he began shooting at other people's targets.

RIFLE RANGE EMPLOYEE : Now, this number eight target is the target that Oswald would supposedly have shot at. One witness has said he helped him sight his scope in and said he was real good, but I don't know.


And it was 3 shots in 8 sec not 6.5. There was 2 witnesses on the floor right below Oswald that heard the 3 shots from right above them.

The fact is he missed the first shot, hit JFKs neck in the second and his third shot was a kill shot. Oswald had used this rifle to attempt to kill an ex General right wing kook. He missed  that shot and practiced.

They rifle had his palm print and finger prints on it.

The public has been bombarded with one kooky conspiracy theory after another. It is no wonder they have problems filtering through the BS.

Heres the transcript of thay show.  

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/oswald/etc/script.html

Everyone who knew Oswald knows he did it. People ignore the reality that Oswald had a motive, means and opportunity all on his own. He did it.

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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2003, 11:51:04 AM »
had a lawyer freind with a carcano in pristine condition.

had a 1000 dollar bet no one could make thos shots ( plural ) in the time alloted.


he still has his 1000 no one will take the bet.


its impossible you can barly cycle the rifle that fast and it is just not accurate enough.


this is with allowing deformed bullets :)

p.s. all bullets that are fired are deformed and expecialy all bullets that pass thru bone. ( speaking of regular full metal jacket military ammo.)


the story we are given is patently false. what really happend? who knows occams razor says powerfull men. not lone "better shot than god" assasins with huge weird assosiations with powerfull men like oswald.



im thinking jfk was pissin off the people who run our country so they wacked him. hell we were in a war under false pretenses at the time. is one mans death so hard to understand? these guys were and are butchers. human life has zero value to them.

wrap your head around that first the rest is easy.
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2003, 12:14:15 PM »
man... your lawyer friend is sure lucky... either that or he has one of the worst carcanos ever.... oswalds rifle was capable of 3 shots in the time frame stated and was accurate enough and.... he was a good enough shot and.... people below him heard him shooting 3 times... three empty recently fired cases were found.

get over it... everything isn't some sort of conspiracy... even if it is... there is not enough proof.   nothing that happened was impossible.   get over it.   plenty of other whacko theories for you to wrap yourself around.  

plus.... bunch of people must have been in on it besides the ones killed... if so... it is the best kept secret ever recorded.
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2003, 12:43:32 PM »
Dolf Vader, looks like your lawyer friend has a bet from Laz! ;)
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2003, 01:37:35 PM »
Some basic facts that contradict most conspiracy theories:

1.The "pristine" bullet was not pristine. It was in fact severely flattened and its markings matched the rifle that had Oswald’s fingerprints, just like the other bullets did.
2.The pristine bullet was not "magic" either. The second shot that hit both Kennedy and Connally did not change direction. It had a straight trajectory. Kennedy was sitting in an elevated position, above Connally. Connally had turned in reaction to the first shot.
3.Bodies shot from the back fall forwards and backwards, not always forwards. Depends on their position when shot. More importantly, Kennedy moves forward for a split second upon impact of the second shot. He then falls to the left and back. The entry wound was on the upper REAR of his head.
4.There are no entry wounds from the front. The angle of the entry wounds rule out any shots from the grassy knoll.
5.There was no fourth shot. This theory came from an audio engineer using audio from a motorcycle cop’s microphone and has since been disproved. The cop was nowhere near where the audio engineer thought he was.
6.The three shots occurred in 8 seconds, not 6.3 seconds.  Plenty of time for this particular model of rifle.  Try it.
7.Oswald was a very good shot.  These three shots were less then 100 yards.  Records exist which show him scoring nearly perfect with 200 yard targets, similar in size to a head target.


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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2003, 03:22:53 PM »
Three shots were heard from below where oswald shot.   Three recently fired cases that all came from oswalds rifle were found near it.  

I thought the range was closer to 150 yards than 200?   still... the 6.5 round is very flat shooting.   wouldn't make much diference.   most people of average ability can hit 100 yard targets of head size (most can do 4" groups even) with open sights... half that with a scope from a rest easily.

sorry... nothing magic about any of it.   it may not have happened that way but it was not impossible or even extremely difficult.

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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2003, 03:29:59 PM »
It was the secret ninja sniper I know him:aok

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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2003, 03:51:06 PM »
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At the Pan American exposition in Buffalo NY, the crowd was startled by the sound of two pistol shots, so close together as to be almost simultaneous. At the same moment President McKinley staggered backward, with pallid face, and a fierce commotion began at the spot where he had stood. The stranger had suddenly held a pistol almost against his breast and fired two shots in rapid succession.

Before he could fire again the secret-service men flung themselves upon him, bearing him to the floor.  The commotion and excitement were so great that the exact details of the struggle were difficult to obtain, and several conflicting stories were told.  


How could the assassin have fired two pistol shots nearly simultaneously, and then not have enough time to get off a third before he was tackled?  Why has executive protection been so lax? Why did the investigation devote so much time to Czolgosz and not look for a conspiracy? Why was there a Pan-American exposition 4 years before the invention of the airplane?

I think it is apparent Leon Czolgosz was a patsy, but now we will never know.  His execution shut him up forever.
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2003, 03:52:24 PM »
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It was the secret ninja sniper I know him:aok
there is no such thing as a ninja sniper as his ub3rness as a ninja would totally negate any need to be a dweeby old sniper.

Oswald either did it on his own, or if a conspiracy then he winged him as well.
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2003, 04:08:17 PM »
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ROBERT OSWALD : This is a struggle that has gone on with me. This is mind over heart. The mind tells me one thing, the heart tells me something else. But the facts are there. And I say to people who want to distort the facts and pick them out, I say, "What do you do with his rifle? What do you do with his pistol? What do you do with his general opportunity? What do you do with his actions?" To me, you can't reach but one conclusion. There's hard physical evidence there. It's good that people raise questions and say, "Wait a minute. Let's take a second look at this." I think that's great, you know? But when you take the second look and the third and the fortieth and the fiftieth -- hey, enough's enough. It's there. Put it to rest.


2 co workers of Oswald's were on the 5th floor below Oswald.

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Mr. NORMAN : We was sitting on the fifth floor, directly under the sixth floor windows. The shots came from above and there was a gun and the shots were sounding, "Boom! Click, click. Boom! Click, click. Boom! Click, click." So there was three shots fired right up over us when we were sitting on the fifth floor


You can believe the government are liars and hiding stuff. But how can you discount the numerous independent witnesses that have no reason at all to lie on Oswald's behal? Even the people closest to him, the ones who you would expect to embrace the "patsy" conspiracy non-sense know he did it.

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« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2003, 04:10:46 PM »
"about JFK assacination"

Je sais pas qui a tué JFK, mais moi je sais que tu viens de tuer ton prof. d'anglais :D

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« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2003, 04:16:22 PM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
How could the assassin have fired two pistol shots nearly simultaneously, and then not have enough time to get off a third before he was tackled?  Why has executive protection been so lax? Why did the investigation devote so much time to Czolgosz and not look for a conspiracy? Why was there a Pan-American exposition 4 years before the invention of the airplane?

I think it is apparent Leon Czolgosz was a patsy, but now we will never know.  His execution shut him up forever.


Yup he was a CIA time traveler sent back through time to kill President McKinley who had planned on exposing the evils of the military industrial complex.

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damn, did straffo just confess?

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« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2003, 04:21:56 PM »
big oooopppsss ...


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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2003, 01:34:34 AM »
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Originally posted by Pooh21
there is no such thing as a ninja sniper as his ub3rness as a ninja would totally negate any need to be a dweeby old sniper.

Oswald either did it on his own, or if a conspiracy then he winged him as well.


No it's true he Is now living with Hitler and Elvis in a secret bunker In Las Vegas.

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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2003, 09:28:09 AM »
All I believe is that the shooter shot from the sewer drain by the curb in front of the car, and that the government was covering up a lot of information.

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