Author Topic: Airliner type hit by MANPAD in Iraq... (Read 1581 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **on:** November 22, 2003, 01:57:47 AM »

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/22/sprj.irq.main/index.html

Raubvogel · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2003, 02:02:16 AM »

It landed safely, with no deaths. Davidpt40 will be disappointed.

mora · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2003, 02:16:12 AM »

It was a mere cargo plane... If there would have been pax on board it would be all over the news.

Creamo · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2003, 02:34:58 AM »

That donkey looked pissed.

It would be hard to bring down a airliner with one of those too. Pry hard on an engine though.

davidpt40 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2003, 03:23:33 AM »

What, no deaths? I am disappointed.

I bet the aircraft was empty though. I am not sure if one engine would be powerful enough to support a fully loaded and fueled cargo plane.

mora · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2003, 04:03:58 AM »

In order to be cetrtified, an aircraft has to be able to climb after takeoff at MTOW(maximum takeoff weight) if one of it's engines fail. Because of this twin engined planes often have better thrust to weight ratio than those with more engines.

Creamo · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2003, 04:33:14 AM »

Exactly, and older cargo carriers pry have 4 engines.

Wouldn't the Bagdad airport have security and spotters for these incompetent terrorists that waste their missiles on commercial airliner engines?

A Apache Helo on full time alert takes off, looks for smoke trail and towels near a van, and ends their Jihad anti-American jet engine campaign.

Scatcat · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2003, 08:13:12 AM »

I'm just wondering if DHL is hire'n? Sounds like a great route to fly.

Dinger · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2003, 03:18:33 PM »

from a post on pprune:

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Aircraft was an A300B4F from DHL, doing the regular second rotation from BAH to SAD. Aircraft was climbing out, passing 8000 ft and 6NM downrange, when it took a missile hit through the wing. Fire broke out and all hydraulics was lost. They made 3 cricles working to get the gear down, then made an overspeed landing back in SAD, resulting in an overrun. Most importantly, all crew members are ok albeit a bit shocked (who the f. wouldn't be?). Pictures of the aircraft on CNN as I write this.

To those who THINK they know anything, back off. The crew and aircraft are fully insured for the operation undertaken. DHL are of course re-evaluating their position with the entire Iraq operation.

all hydraulics sounds suspicious.
still, that CVR tape would be interesting to hear.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2003, 03:25:10 PM »

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Originally posted by mora
In order to be cetrtified, an aircraft has to be able to climb after takeoff at MTOW(maximum takeoff weight) if one of it's engines fail. Because of this twin engined planes often have better thrust to weight ratio than those with more engines.

If it is a single engine a/c does it still need to climb out at MTOW with one engine out?

I have some dual time in a Piper Aztec, and with one engine out, the other can safely take you to your crash site.

Pooh21 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2003, 03:58:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Scatcat
I'm just wondering if DHL is hire'n? Sounds like a great route to fly.

only if they change the seat, glad they made it down ok.

mora · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2003, 06:05:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
If it is a single engine a/c does it still need to climb out at MTOW with one engine out?

I have some dual time in a Piper Aztec, and with one engine out, the other can safely take you to your crash site.

Ha! Ya got meh.... But really....that incident sounds pretty nasty. I doubt they had a COMPLETE hydraulic failure, but it sounds pretty bad nevertheless.

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2003, 10:39:39 PM »

wonder what missile they are usin.

Chairboy · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2003, 11:22:28 PM »

RTFA. It was an SA-7.

john9001 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 23, 2003, 01:00:08 AM »

i saw the pic on TV , the tip of the wing was on fire, did it really hit the engine?