Author Topic: speaking of lawsuits... (Read 2291 times)

Sandman · « **Reply #30 on:** November 23, 2003, 10:33:00 AM »

I think that poverty and the druq war are probably the major contributors to the homicide rates in DC and NY. They aren't violent places becauses of gun control.

There are plenty of national statistics to show that the U.S. is more violent than any of our western counterparts. Is it because we're a bloodthirsty lot or maybe it's the guns?

But that's not really the point... I'll answer your question again. There is no Constitutionally protected right to bear a concealed weapon.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 23, 2003, 10:45:07 AM »

sandie... Ok... I disagree about the 2nd but...there is nothing in the constitution that prohibits carrying a concealed weapon...

The fact is that some (most, like 34 or so)states allow for it.... California allows me to carry a concealed weapon if I can show cause to a police chief and meet all the requirements... being the victim of a violent crime is proof that I had just cause. The police chief and city prevented me from defending myself and at a whim... they do not know me personally. They have a policy that is not part of the state law and should therefore be open to lawsuit by people harmed by their policies.

some police chiefs allow concealed carry and others do not... the ones that do not should be held accountable for their policies.

lazs

Sandman · « **Reply #32 on:** November 23, 2003, 10:53:20 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
sandie... Ok... I disagree about the 2nd but...there is nothing in the constitution that prohibits carrying a concealed weapon...

lazs

Why do you think they chose to call it a Bill of Rights and not a Bill of Prohibition?

Flit · « **Reply #33 on:** November 23, 2003, 11:18:29 AM »

For anyone who might be interested- http://www.packing.org

SOB · « **Reply #34 on:** November 23, 2003, 05:35:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
There are plenty of national statistics to show that the U.S. is more violent than any of our western counterparts. Is it because we're a bloodthirsty lot or maybe it's the guns?

Well, we must be bloodthirsty unless you think guns somehow make people do bad things instead of the other way around.

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 24, 2003, 08:53:20 AM »

sandie... Our white homicide rate is about 2.6 per 100,000 is this the rate of a "bloodthirsty" nation? If so... there are plenty of bloodthirsty and appretice bloodthirsty nations out there including the uk.

and... concealed carry is better but I will go along with open carry if you want. In england the first gun laws stated that the firearms HAD to be concealed.

so... if some police chiefs allow concealed carry and others do not... the ones that do not should be held accountable for their policies if a person who is refused a concealed carry permit is the victim of a violent crime.

lazs