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Offline maslo

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« on: November 26, 2003, 04:36:04 PM »
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994425

LOL

i could not even imagine XP on ATM machines till today :P

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2003, 04:42:22 PM »
Djust install a AV software and all worries are over!

Right Chariboy?

I´m amazed that people still pushes new "Technology" this hard without any security thinking at all...

Its the golden age of the hackers...
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2003, 04:42:49 PM »
Weren't there talks of MS designing some voting comp for the elections..

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2003, 04:48:05 PM »
I wonder where I've put the picture of a SU-27 MFD showing  DOS booting ...

Btw I've seen one time an ATM reject my card and reboot ...
(I used another one to get my money :D)

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2003, 04:50:21 PM »
Ive seen one with the MS-DOS prompt too :) , couldnt do much with the numpad alone but it was worth a try hehe!
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2003, 05:10:43 PM »
My g/f father is President of a bank chain here in Georgia.  About a month or so ago they found out that anyone that used an ATM card other than the Banks card...like using a Bank of America card in their ATM's resulted in the ATM's literally shooting out hundred dollar bills.  He said they tested it out and it was like a slot machine........luckily they found out about the problem before anyone got lucky.  When he tested it the machine spit out $7,000.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2003, 05:15:13 PM »
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luckily they found out about the problem before anyone got lucky


You have to understand that, thats the official story...

Only one bank in history has been "hacked" :rolleyes:

What do they think of next? Wireless Access points for the ATM machines? :D
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2003, 06:52:01 PM »
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What do they think of next? Wireless Access points for the ATM machines? :D


LOL i will not be surprised :D

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2003, 08:44:59 PM »
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You have to understand that, thats the official story...

Only one bank in history has been "hacked" :rolleyes:

What do they think of next? Wireless Access points for the ATM machines? :D


You mean like this : http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-5111637.html?tag=cd_lede

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2003, 08:52:56 PM »
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Djust install a AV software and all worries are over!

Right Chariboy?


Nope, I've never said that.  I think it's in pretty poor taste to set up a straw man argument.

I've argued, as you well know, that antivirus is just one component of a multi-layered security policy.  A vital component, sure, but only part of it.  Why?  Because there's more then one type of threat.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2003, 09:19:12 PM »
rulez my arzes


until they make XP be able to play my old games...it sucks...

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2003, 03:16:14 AM »
cool Vulcan
can you imagine how many thiefs will lear how to cut of hand  :D

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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2003, 09:38:31 AM »
Here in Moscow we have many "bankomats", mostly two types. Old ones have OS/2 1.3 inside, and usually they work without problems. Others have Windows, you can guess by seeing BSOD on their screens quite often.

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2003, 10:28:59 AM »
Some damn good flight sim software outta yer country Boroda. Obviously there are some talented programmers still there (many have left for greener pastures). Why hasn't someone written an OS? Could it be they're not so afraid no one would use it but rather that no one would buy it? No serious slam intended, software pirates abound here in the USofA.
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2003, 11:46:57 AM »
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Some damn good flight sim software outta yer country Boroda. Obviously there are some talented programmers still there (many have left for greener pastures). Why hasn't someone written an OS? Could it be they're not so afraid no one would use it but rather that no one would buy it? No serious slam intended, software pirates abound here in the USofA.


You can laugh, but in Soviet time our brilliant government killed our computer industry by abandoning native projects (by 1970 we had really great machines, no worse then you did) and kept cloning IBM mainframes and DEC PDP or VAX minies. So we don't have any OS tradition, everyone worked on Western systems since early-70s.

We also don't have big software companies who can invest in making their own platform. Our biggest firms make nothing more then accounting software for Windows.

Now many Russians work on Linux. We have at least 3 teams that make their distributions.

What we have now is that you have to provide compatibility with "mainstream" systems, and only 2 of them left: Windows and Linux. You know, Chinese have a "national OS" project, but it's again "Red Flag Linux".

I can imagine our state investing into a "national OS" project, but it will be a disaster. 90% of the money will be stolen, and remnants will be used to develop a monster based on concepts drawn by veterans who still think perforated cards are the cheapest and easiest storage. It will be Cyrillic only, incompatible with modern hardware and will result in another endless money stream going into a production of our own hardware, on some Giants of Soviet Industry that 10 years ago have switched from computers to making talking dolls. Again, 90% of money will be stolen.

Every country must do what they do best. I think that now we should make tanks, missiles and airplanes, but the competition is too strong, 90% of the weapon market is controlled by the US, both economically and politically. Or invest in commercial space programms, with our production potential we can monopolize the whole market. But someone "up there" is not interested in industrial development. It's easier for them to pump oil and sale Coca-Cola and chewing gum to the population.