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Offline Ripper29

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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2003, 04:06:45 PM »
Canadian Sniper Makes War Record Shot, 2430 Meters Canadian sets record for a long-distance shot under combat.
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The kill, one of more than 20 unofficially credited to Canadian snipers during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan's Shahi Kot Valley, beat the 35-year-old record of 2,500 yards, or 2,250 metres, set by U.S. Marine Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock in Duc Pho, South Vietnam.

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But will give credit where credit is due, they did use American Ammunition, the stuff our government issued did not have enough power.  The Canadian .50-calibre rounds have a maximum range of between 2,200 and 2,300 metres while the American rounds have better ballistic qualities and overall range.

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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2003, 04:07:20 PM »
Not enough money in funding snipers. Thats the last thing this group cares about. Infact they propbably bothered by the whole sniper concept.

People know alot more about economics then me. But it seems to me that Canada is factoring in the costs of the baby boom getting old and the others are not. Yet we all can see that it will have to be paid for somehow.  Every country will have to pay for it or adjust the services that are provided. No matter how it is paid for. That chart is just silly.

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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2003, 04:19:38 PM »
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Canadian Sniper Makes War Record Shot, 2430 Meters Canadian sets record for a long-distance shot under combat.


Instead of invading Iraq, they should have sent this guy...
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2003, 04:28:27 PM »
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But will give credit where credit is due, they did use American Ammunition, the stuff our government issued did not have enough power. The Canadian .50-calibre rounds have a maximum range of between 2,200 and 2,300 metres while the American rounds have better ballistic qualities and overall range.


Incorrect, my company sold 750 GR AMAX 50 cal rounds, and Aaron Perry, an..aquaintance..of mine was the person who made the shot.  He later was "disciplined", as it was seen in the media, for collecting "trophies" from the dead Taliban fighters.  I have held in my hand an ammo link from the Russian made gun mounted on the truck where this shot was made.


Also, this hasn't officially broken yet, but the "blended metal" ammunition thread reminded me of a "rumour, cough".  JTF2 (Canadian Socom troops) has scored a 3500 meter plus kill with .50 cal blended metal rounds recently, it'll be in a magazine article this month sometime.

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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2003, 04:53:54 PM »
07/10/2002
The Globe and Mail
 
A world-record shot by a Canadian sniper detachment in Afghanistan could never have been made with the ammunition they were issued by the Canadian military, says the shooter, who used U.S. rounds for the landmark kill.

http://www.infantry.army.mil/catd/afghanistan/articles/canadian%20snipers.doc

GMAN...you may have different sources about the ammo used, I relied on various news articals that were published as well as talking with some friends in the PPCLI.  Not meaning to argue  
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2003, 06:22:46 PM »
That article is basically correct, it WAS US ammo, most of our CF ammo is made be SNC Lavalin (SS109 etc, IVI headstamped).  The ammo DID however come from a Canadian distribution company.

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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2003, 07:16:43 PM »
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Canadian Sniper Makes War Record Shot, 2430 Meters Canadian sets record for a long-distance shot under combat.
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http://www.cavers.com/pipermail/tfr-l/2002-May/000214.html

The kill, one of more than 20 unofficially credited to Canadian snipers during Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan's Shahi Kot Valley, beat the 35-year-old record of 2,500 yards, or 2,250 metres, set by U.S. Marine Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock in Duc Pho, South Vietnam.

:D

But will give credit where credit is due, they did use American Ammunition, the stuff our government issued did not have enough power.  The Canadian .50-calibre rounds have a maximum range of between 2,200 and 2,300 metres while the American rounds have better ballistic qualities and overall range.

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2003, 07:24:25 PM »
In a perfect world, no country will need a military.  Canada is expediting the process.

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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2003, 09:56:54 PM »
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So within 6 years our new APCs and our M16s will stop working? Our F18s will cease to fly?


Depends, those F18s certainly won't last 6 years of routine use without much expensive upkeep.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2003, 11:29:38 PM »
Canada has a Navy? Bass boats with coaxial mounted red riders? Patented "dock fender" armor plate? Humminbird state of the art fishfin, i mean sonar? Minn-kota "stealth-drive"?  Ratt-L Trap (in rainbow trout) trolling torpedoes? .68 cal man portable Auto-Cocker burst ammo anti-aircraft/CIWS system? Tandem axle Bayliner galvanized trailer for stealth insertions (Isuzu P'up is the tow, I mean launch system)? Thomas Guide tactical location system? Sony Handicam night vision system? Jeez I kill me...

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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2003, 12:00:21 AM »
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People know alot more about economics then me. But it seems to me that Canada is factoring in the costs of the baby boom getting old and the others are not. Yet we all can see that it will have to be paid for somehow.  Every country will have to pay for it or adjust the services that are provided. No matter how it is paid for. That chart is just silly.


If I'm hearing you right you are saying that this whole baby boom retirment thing is bad?????

I'm not economist but the way I see it is this......big institutions and government orginizations in 10 to 15 years will experience the biggest manpower shortage they've ever felt.  This means more jobs available for my generations (i think i'm X or pepsi...cant remember)  

Not to mention these retirees will start drawing on what's left of there 401k or other plans.....this means more tax revenue for the govt.


not sure if this makes up for paying for there diapers or not but at least that's the bright side.....Miko what you think?

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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2003, 12:05:09 AM »
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If I'm hearing you right you are saying that this whole baby boom retirment thing is bad?????


not sure if this makes up for paying for there diapers or not but at least that's the bright side.....Miko what you think?


Someone is going to have to provide and pay for healthcare. Think the medicare system will hold up under a few million new enrollees?

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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2003, 12:42:20 AM »
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Canada has a Navy? Bass boats with coaxial mounted red riders? Patented "dock fender" armor plate? Humminbird state of the art fishfin, i mean sonar? Minn-kota "stealth-drive"?  Ratt-L Trap (in rainbow trout) trolling torpedoes? .68 cal man portable Auto-Cocker burst ammo anti-aircraft/CIWS system? Tandem axle Bayliner galvanized trailer for stealth insertions (Isuzu P'up is the tow, I mean launch system)? Thomas Guide tactical location system? Sony Handicam night vision system? Jeez I kill me...


OMG you mean we got the new versions already?

WoooHooo.........:aok

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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2003, 06:31:33 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2003, 10:11:00 PM »
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Canadian Sniper Makes War Record Shot, 2430 Meters Canadian sets record for a long-distance shot under combat.
 


So.....how long was that shot after the exchange rate?






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