Author Topic: Canada's Military (Read 1189 times)

Krusher · « **on:** December 03, 2003, 09:04:02 AM »

Canada's air force, as well as either the army or navy, will likely cease to exist around the end of this decade unless the federal government orders a massive infusion of cash, warns a Queen's University study to be released today.

If funding for new equipment continues to decline and is not increased, "then the air force will likely disappear through the 2008-2013 time frame, and either the army or navy will disappear in the same time frame."

http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?id=E61A3349-665F-4798-B803-5CEF252A1D47

Mini D · « **Reply #1 on:** December 03, 2003, 09:13:46 AM »

Why? Are their planes and tanks biodegradable?

Toad · « **Reply #2 on:** December 03, 2003, 09:28:57 AM »

No they're going the ultimate "stealth" route.

ra · « **Reply #3 on:** December 03, 2003, 09:57:00 AM »

"Free" healthcare.

miko2d · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2003, 10:15:32 AM »

Canadians have bigger problems to worry about than military. In fact, they would be lucky if someone invaded them and took over their fiscal mess

In the long run we are all broke

miko

AWMac · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2003, 10:38:11 AM »

"Friendly Fire?"

ra · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2003, 10:39:47 AM »

Look how frugal we Yanks are! Not like those spendthrift Dutch!!

RTR · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2003, 10:58:07 AM »

Poor Taste Mac.

RTR

Pongo · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2003, 11:00:12 AM »

So within 6 years our new APCs and our M16s will stop working? Our F18s will cease to fly?
"The report was produced by researchers with the defence management studies program at Queen's University in collaboration with the Ottawa-based Conference of Defence Associations.

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I can believe that a group funded by defence contractors and suppliers would believe so. But of course it is ludicrous. we need to shore up our forces to fix our relations with the US? I dont see the relationship between the two myself.

As to Canadas baby boom pension and healthcare bubble. That economist must be pretty stupid if he thinks it only applies to Canada. Its only in our chart yet every coutnry will face it. The US more so since it has a fatter less healthy population. Who pays for it. We all do. Canadians will pay it in taxes. Amuricans will pay it in higher premiums or vastly increased welfare.
Take your pick - its comming. If we continue to allow the health industries to do any procedures they can no matter the cost or the long term advantage then they will. We will be spending our future keeping fat smoking baby boomers alive instead of doing all the things we should be doing with our money be it taxes or premuims or what ever. Its all money.
At least in canada we have a chance of mandating what kinds of things will be done to limit costs and we arent shy about pirating perscription drugs to cut costs.

ra · « **Reply #9 on:** December 03, 2003, 11:03:22 AM »

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At least in canada we have a chance of mandating what kinds of things will be done to limit costs and we arent shy about pirating perscription drugs to cut costs.

Governments don't have a very good track record for mandating cost limits. They do a great job of limiting supply and quality, though.

firbal · « **Reply #10 on:** December 03, 2003, 11:43:53 AM »

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Originally posted by ra
Governments don't have a very good track record for mandating cost limits. They do a great job of limiting supply and quality, though.

I think a good example is the VA Hospitals run by the Government. They are looking for ways to cuts expenses and keep cut the money to the VA.

So if you want me to support Government heath care, then start with the VA and prove to me they are up to the task.

miko2d · « **Reply #11 on:** December 03, 2003, 12:05:55 PM »

firbal: I think a good example is the VA Hospitals run by the Government. They are looking for ways to cuts expenses and keep cut the money to the VA.

Economic calculation is not possible without private property, that is why socialism cannot work ("Socialism" by L. von Mises). They may be thinking they are cutting expenses but they are missing many side-effects because there is no market and no market prices as well as no profit or loss. Socialist enterprises cannot even tell if they are accumulating capital or decumulating it.

miko

OIO · « **Reply #12 on:** December 03, 2003, 01:16:45 PM »

and the boy scouts are disbanding.

Mini D · « **Reply #13 on:** December 03, 2003, 01:21:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
So within 6 years our new APCs and our M16s will stop working? Our F18s will cease to fly?
"The report was produced by researchers with the defence management studies program at Queen's University in collaboration with the Ottawa-based Conference of Defence Associations.

"
I can believe that a group funded by defence contractors and suppliers would believe so. But of course it is ludicrous. we need to shore up our forces to fix our relations with the US? I dont see the relationship between the two myself.

Hehehe... Was thinking the same thing.

MiniD

Dago · « **Reply #14 on:** December 03, 2003, 01:35:11 PM »

Canadien snipers did some fine work in Afghanistan. Would be a shame to let a program like that fade away.

dago